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Re: Foxed =! EA |
Mar 19, 2012, 20:32 |
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And yet, there's a ton of precedents, in the other direction. A look at WCNews' fan projects pages shows 6 completed and 14 in progress. The argument that EA does classless things and therefore it might do this classless thing thing seems mildly ridiculous. It's nice (for me) that Valve holds steep sales twice a year and carries a lot of indie games. It would be nice if someone would buy me a new car. Valve does nice things, therefore it's easy to see Valve buying me a new car? You kind of expect a company to behave badly or well in a consistent manner rather than sporadically picking the dick option with no rhyme or reason.
Terrible analogies aside (where the FUCK did Valve buying us a car come from???? Jesus that was dumb...), you are ignoring the fact that the mods you mentioned went practically unnoticed by most everyone. I'm a huge WC fan, and I only came to find out about them late. The Saga production has already garnered far more attention than all of the previous mods combined - how many gaming sites even covered the release of Gemini, the Privateer remake... as compared to this one? Hell, the mod makers themselves made an announcement, clarifying that this is not signed-off on or in any way sanctioned by EA, that had a wiff of panic in it that this might be the one that catches EA's notice given the coverage it's receiving.
To clarify - I don't expect EA to FOX this; however it would be a surprise to virtually no one if they did. Honestly, if you would have tried to comprehend the point from the beginning this whole conversation would have been unnecessary. |
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Re: Foxed =! EA |
Mar 19, 2012, 20:09 |
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Orogogus wrote on Mar 19, 2012, 19:16:
You kind of expect a company to behave badly or well in a consistent manner rather than sporadically picking the dick option with no rhyme or reason. It is consistent, if one holds the opinion from past history and personal experience that they are just plain dicks. |
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Re: Foxed =! EA |
Mar 19, 2012, 19:16 |
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Prez wrote on Mar 19, 2012, 18:33:
hb3d wrote on Mar 19, 2012, 09:30:
Prez wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 23:21:
Well, it's conjecture, sure. But baseless? It's baseless until someone can show an example of where EA has done this to another mod or fan game project especially recently. I'm all for EA bashing but do it for the right reasons.
I disagree. I take "baseless" to mean that there is no evidence to suggest its possible, not that there's no precedence, which is what you are talking about. Apples and oranges. There is certainly enough evidence to point to that illustrates that EA can and often does behave in a manner that is counter to their customers desires and distinctly lacking in class. Given EA's general lack of class and goodwill towards its customers, it's easy to see them FOXing a mod if it gets enough attention.
And yet, there's a ton of precedents, in the other direction. A look at WCNews' fan projects pages shows 6 completed and 14 in progress. The argument that EA does classless things and therefore it might do this classless thing thing seems mildly ridiculous. It's nice (for me) that Valve holds steep sales twice a year and carries a lot of indie games. It would be nice if someone would buy me a new car. Valve does nice things, therefore it's easy to see Valve buying me a new car? You kind of expect a company to behave badly or well in a consistent manner rather than sporadically picking the dick option with no rhyme or reason. |
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Re: Foxed =! EA |
Mar 19, 2012, 18:33 |
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hb3d wrote on Mar 19, 2012, 09:30:
Prez wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 23:21:
Well, it's conjecture, sure. But baseless? It's baseless until someone can show an example of where EA has done this to another mod or fan game project especially recently. I'm all for EA bashing but do it for the right reasons.
I disagree. I take "baseless" to mean that there is no evidence to suggest its possible, not that there's no precedence, which is what you are talking about. Apples and oranges. There is certainly enough evidence to point to that illustrates that EA can and often does behave in a manner that is counter to their customers desires and distinctly lacking in class. Given EA's general lack of class and goodwill towards its customers, it's easy to see them FOXing a mod if it gets enough attention. |
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Re: Foxed =! EA |
Mar 19, 2012, 09:30 |
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Prez wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 23:21:
Well, it's conjecture, sure. But baseless? It's baseless until someone can show an example of where EA has done this to another mod or fan game project especially recently. I'm all for EA bashing but do it for the right reasons.
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 23:56 |
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Teddy wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 17:07:
Prez wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 16:53:
Is EA going to "FOX" this now???
Just wait until it's released and shows any signs of popularity. Then it'll get stepped on and EA will announce an official Wing Commander reboot or something like that.
Maybe.
That's the danger with unofficial remakes though. You put a ton of effort into something you don't own and it might get taken away from you at the last second.
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 23:30 |
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| Relax, I will shoot down TCS Tigers Claw again... |
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"On 2646.215 I myself attacked & destroyed TCS Tiger's Claw in my Jalthi heavy fighter" Bakhtosh Redclaw Nar Kiranka |
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Re: Foxed =! EA |
Mar 18, 2012, 23:21 |
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hb3d wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 20:58:
Quoted For Truth. Knowing EA, I'm willing to bet this will happen. Quoted for baseless conjecture.
Well, it's conjecture, sure. But baseless? I don't know about that - EA has proven more than once that it isn't above classless, anti-customer behavior. Though we are happy they haven't thus far and hope they continue to refrain, it certainly would surprise no one if they did pull a FOX.
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Re: Foxed =! EA |
Mar 18, 2012, 22:38 |
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hb3d wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 20:58:
Quoted For Truth. Knowing EA, I'm willing to bet this will happen. Quoted for baseless conjecture. EA has done a number of things in recent years which deservedly have drawn the ire of PC gamers and video game buyers in general. However, shutting down fan projects is not one of them. I can think of plenty of fan-made mods and game projects which have EA's approval. EA has also released older games for free like the C&C Anniversary release and has approved the release of stand-alone C&C Renegade mods.
Can you actually name any fan-made games or mod projects which have been "foxed" by EA? I can name several by Activision/Vivendi and Atari, which is one of the worst, but not EA.
True nuff. And as the man mentioned in his response, they have a history of permitting fan remakes and expansions specifically in the Wing Commander franchise. So all evidence is that EA is showing intelligent restraint. I wouldn't expect them to officially endorse a project they have no involvement in. |
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Foxed =! EA |
Mar 18, 2012, 20:58 |
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Quoted For Truth. Knowing EA, I'm willing to bet this will happen. Quoted for baseless conjecture. EA has done a number of things in recent years which deservedly have drawn the ire of PC gamers and video game buyers in general. However, shutting down fan projects is not one of them. I can think of plenty of fan-made mods and game projects which have EA's approval. EA has also released older games for free like the C&C Anniversary release and has approved the release of stand-alone C&C Renegade mods.
Can you actually name any fan-made games or mod projects which have been "foxed" by EA? I can name several by Activision/Vivendi, Sega, and Atari, which is one of the worst, but not EA.
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 20:12 |
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s1mon75 wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 18:40:
Teddy wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 17:07:
Just wait until it's released and shows any signs of popularity. Then it'll get stepped on and EA will announce an official Wing Commander reboot or something like that.
Quoted For Truth. Knowing EA, I'm willing to bet this will happen.
Wing Commander, play the game as it was, as an FPS! |
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 18:40 |
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Teddy wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 17:07:
Just wait until it's released and shows any signs of popularity. Then it'll get stepped on and EA will announce an official Wing Commander reboot or something like that.
Quoted For Truth. Knowing EA, I'm willing to bet this will happen. |
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 18:06 |
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Prez wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 16:53:
Is EA going to "FOX" this now???
Clocks ticking...
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 17:07 |
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Prez wrote on Mar 18, 2012, 16:53:
Is EA going to "FOX" this now???
Just wait until it's released and shows any signs of popularity. Then it'll get stepped on and EA will announce an official Wing Commander reboot or something like that. |
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 16:53 |
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| Is EA going to "FOX" this now??? |
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 12:53 |
nin |
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Wow. That's a bit of a different story from the other day! |
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 12:48 |
Dev |
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However the story falsely got started about approval, thats the kinda thing that draws attention of slumbering giants like EA.
And him calling out other projects is just bad. If EA decides to go after him, they may well decide to shut everyone down because 1 guy got a little too noisy. After all, if I pull out a hammer to hammer down one nail thats sticking out too far, I might give the others around it a whack or two just to make sure they are staying down.
This comment was edited on Mar 18, 2012, 13:48. |
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 12:45 |
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..they better ship it now
bealzeEA is stirring |
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Re: Wing Commander Saga Correction |
Mar 18, 2012, 12:20 |
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| ok phew bcus I wasn't gonna try it until that was all cleared up. OK GOOD TO GO SHIP IT! |
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