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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:49 |
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| blarg -- I haven't thought about game cracks for even a microsecond in over a decade and then I see these news items and start pondering ways of getting around the install of a network-based game client. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:46 |
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Bhruic wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:31:
There's absolutely no way that they are scanning your registry and adding games. The registry doesn't tell them whether you bought the game, only if you have it installed. If they did it that way, pirates would all spontaneously have "legit" copies of the game. The serial key itself tells them whether you purchased a game or not. Each key can only be activated once, so pirates cannot "spontaneously have legit copies". It's perfectly plausible they're reading the registry, especially as previous reports have confirmed they scan the registry. However, it's just as possible it's done when you register / login with an email to EA servers. It should be incredible easy to tell: if you login with DS2 and it only adds DS2 to Origin then it's login details; if you login with DS2 and it adds a whole load of other games it's more likely the registry or a form of scanning.
Some people in the Day One Patch are reporting that games are only added when you login, while others are reporting that it added all their EA games. I'm sure now that this has been brought to people's attention that we'll find out more - either from diligent users or EA itself. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:46 |
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What was it those EA fuckers said about "hey, that's false, we don't read ANYTHING outside the game folder"?.
FUCK YOU, EA. I'm glad I didn't buy your POS Origin.
Benign my ass. I want some of what the guy at Joystiq is smoking. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:44 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:38:
Well said. I agree while there may be issues with the interface needing work or whatever -- but on basic principle unless you are also against Steam, being against Origin doesn't make much sense. People are against Origin, because they don't trust EA and with good cause. EA has a very long, nearly two decades long history of fucking people right in the face. Then pissing on them, and telling them that it was their hearts desire.
Steam on the other hand while not all sunshine and roses, with tulips hasn't gone out of it's way to follow EA's credo of "lets be evil." |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:38 |
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Took people long enough to latch onto this and whine about it.
Crysis 2 was picked up and added to Origin the first time I installed Origin launch day.
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:38 |
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Beamer wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:06:
I don't fully understand why people are so angry at EA for going Origin-only for the time being. This is pretty expected, no? This is pretty common, too. When you want someone to use one product you kind of have to force them to. When Steam came out Valve forced you to use it for HL2. Well said. I agree while there may be issues with the interface needing work or whatever -- but on basic principle unless you are also against Steam, being against Origin doesn't make much sense. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:37 |
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Bhruic wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:31:
There's absolutely no way that they are scanning your registry and adding games. The registry doesn't tell them whether you bought the game, only if you have it installed. If they did it that way, pirates would all spontaneously have "legit" copies of the game.
The much more plausible way they are doing it is the way ochentay4 described.
Yeah people are getting a bit excited but it's just doing it through your EA account, not the registry or by scanning. I'm not sure why Joystiq reported it so vaguely in the first place to be fair to others. If you select "All Games" in your Origin list you might be surprised at whats now there if you've logged into or registered games with your EA account. It's just a convenience thing really. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:35 |
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Verno wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 10:29:
TurdFergasun wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 10:21:
bf3= $60 i'll never regain the entertainment value out of, because i'll never reinstall origin. i'd love to see ea enjoy the same future as say the third reich. both were great at manufacturing well engineered products to help extend and maintain their power, sadly both ignore any sense of humanity in their endeavors.
This is so over the top as to be totally absurd but still amusing 
mission accomplished. i can send the troops home now. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:35 |
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Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:33:
Creston wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:31:
Is a EULA binding if I never read it? Many law professors and judges say that it can't be binding if people are expected to never read it. It's still a legal gray area.
Creston No. Neither is the part about waiving your right to a trial or court and going directly to binding arbitration, at least not here. But that's in their eula too.
Oh yeah, they could put in their EULA that they have the right to come over whenever they want to and rape my family. Somehow I doubt that that'd be considered okay.
Just because they put shit in their EULA doesn't make it automatic law, even though certain corrupt asshole judges are trying their very fucking hardest to make it so.
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:33 |
Creston |
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Beamer wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:06:
I don't fully understand why people are so angry at EA for going Origin-only for the time being.
I think if you re-read your question with my edit, it might make more sense to you.
EA has 0% goodwill. That's why people dislike them and anything they do.
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:33 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Creston wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:31:
Is a EULA binding if I never read it? Many law professors and judges say that it can't be binding if people are expected to never read it. It's still a legal gray area.
Creston No. Neither is the part about waiving your right to a trial or court and going directly to binding arbitration, at least not here. But that's in their eula too. |
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and it is always wrong."
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:31 |
Bhruic |
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There's absolutely no way that they are scanning your registry and adding games. The registry doesn't tell them whether you bought the game, only if you have it installed. If they did it that way, pirates would all spontaneously have "legit" copies of the game.
The much more plausible way they are doing it is the way ochentay4 described. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:31 |
Creston |
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Teddy wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:12:
Creston wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:00:
I'm pretty sure that I never allowed EA to scan my system at will,
Origin EULA wrote:
2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services
If you agreed to Origin's EULA, then you did exactly that.
Is a EULA binding if I never read it? Many law professors and judges say that it can't be binding if people are expected to never read it. It's still a legal gray area.
Creston |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:30 |
Creston |
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theyarecomingforyou wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:20:
Exactly. They should have done this anyway, as what happens if you're logged into somebody else's Steam account?
Interesting thought. Free copies of all EA games, I guess? If you trust your buddies with your Steam account info, I see an EA-self-inflicted piracy parade coming up...
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:22 |
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I saw this and thought it was what happened. I had bought NFS: Hot Pursuit from a Steam Sale months ago. All the sudden a few weeks ago it popped up in my Origin games list, with the only game I bought on Origin, NFS: The Run (which I got at a sweet price from Origin.)
I wonder if Steam will get pissed about this.
P.S. Other than getting The Run, for I think $10 (maybe it was $20), I have not seen any other deals good enough to entice me on Origin. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:20 |
theyarecomingforyou |
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Alamar wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 10:59:
In many ways, reading the registry could have more of a security impact... Either way, I'm sure someone will watch procmon closely and let us (the world) know the results if they find anything... I'm highly critical of what EA is doing with Origin but there is nothing wrong with a company accessing the registry keys created by its own games, especially when it is being done to benefit the user.
Creston wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:00:
I'm pretty sure that I never allowed EA to scan my system at will, and who guarantees me that that's all they're scanning? Somehow I seriously doubt that EA is ONLY scanning in the registry key called EA, and I also seriously doubt that it's only doing so with List access. I assume it's covered in the EULA, though it's not really reasonable to expect people to read it.
Creston wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:00:
Instead of doing this automatically, why not pop up a little box in Origin that explains what the process does, and asks if you want it to do this, yes or no? Exactly. They should have done this anyway, as what happens if you're logged into somebody else's Steam account? And if you're going to do something that benefits the user then you may as well flaunt it in their face and tell them what a good company you are. It's bizarre that they'd hide it. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:14 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Teddy wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:12:
If you agreed to Origin's EULA, then you did exactly that. Remember, it's not spyware though. They even say it in their FAQ! |
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and it is always wrong."
--H.L. Mencken |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:12 |
Teddy |
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Creston wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:00:
I'm pretty sure that I never allowed EA to scan my system at will,
Origin EULA wrote:
2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services
If you agreed to Origin's EULA, then you did exactly that. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:10 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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"Origin isn't spyware"
ORIGIN: WE ARE NOW SELF-AWARE, SCANNING SYSTEM FOR OTHER ORIGIN TITLES.
ORIGIN: Installing...
Customer: Wtf...where did it find out I have these installed from. |
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Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games |
Feb 28, 2012, 11:08 |
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| Remember this is the EA that bans people from their own games that they paid for, for comments on their forums. I rather not have them scanning my computer. |
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