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28. Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 27, 2012, 14:07 gilly775
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Feb 27, 2012, 09:36:
gilly775 wrote on Feb 27, 2012, 08:57:
xXBatmanXx wrote on Feb 27, 2012, 02:01:
eunichron wrote on Feb 27, 2012, 01:58:
eRe4s3r wrote on Feb 27, 2012, 00:51:
They are not fired because once fired you have suddenly a 3 year hole of no police men, the training to become one takes way too long, has way too high drop-out rate and the job pays like crap and is thankless to boot.


I know you're not from the states, but I can't remember exactly where now... but here in the states going through the academy, or getting a criminal justice degree, doesn't guarantee you a job on the force. There are plenty of people qualified to be officers that are waiting on openings, and the openings actually fill pretty quickly for that reason. I had two friends myself that were waiting for openings, one of them said fuck it and became a fireman instead, the other is working seasonal jobs until a slot opens at his PD of choice.

Here in Minnesota, probably one of the hardest states to get hired in, we have around 400-450 applicants for each opening.

Almost all places I know about uses the point system. Very hard to get a job unless you are a veteran, have some experience, Masters degree, minorty, etc etc etc. Also in MN a college degree (at least a 2 year) is required. I know some states just allow high school diploma.

I'm calling BS on your statement. I've lived in MN for 12 years now, am a veteran, and have two masters and it is still hard to find a job in the cities. In Fact, I left the cities to take a job up in Thief River Falls because it was the only systems administration job I actually received an interview for and then eventually hired.

Couple things. I have lived here my whole life, and have worked in many different sectors (IT private and public, Finance private and public, Corporate misc., and now Law Enforcement). First off, you are trying to get a job that is even more impossible to get than a cop job. IT workers in MN are a dime a dozen. Let me guess, you wanted 80k a year and a nice package. Ain't gonna happen! People with 10 years experience are happy to land an entry level position in IT!!!!

Moreover, I was discussing cop jobs.

Call BS all you want. I live in NE MPLS and have a HUGE network of people in corporate and private IT/Finance. Carlson Companies was the last company I worked for before getting a cop job, and I easily got that job (no Masters) and I easily got the job before that in Finance/IT. Maybe you aren't a good interviewer, maybe your demands were to high, maybe lots of things. I dunno.

Nope, never once considered 80K. Heck, I don' even make that here. When I started in IT in 2000, I was making 17 an hour contracting to Metris Companies, I then went to work for Kroll Ontrack in Eden Prairie which went downhill and was willing to work for the same salary under 60K at any other place. I even saw laid off SAN people who made 80K plus get jobs at our company for 40K. I had to supplement my income by teaching part time at MN School of Business. If anything, you are correct about the saturation, but I spoke to HR people who said that Masters and Veteran status don't mean shiat in most cases.

Interview skills, maybe. I also heard "over-qualified" from some places. But just because I have two Masters, am a Veteran, and didn't ask for much, doesn't guarantee you diddly squat in the cities. I even tried the Veteran thing for my undergrad, Public Health Jobs (which thanks to the smoking lawsuit, brought in A LOT of them, plus they were govt. jobs to boot) prior to 2000 but that didn't seem like a factor at all.

This comment was edited on Feb 27, 2012, 14:16.
 
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