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CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine

Eurogamer talks with CD Projekt RED about their future plans, confirming indications late last year that they have two AAA titles in the works for release in 2014 and 2015. The conversation touches on advances in their new "Red" game engine, which will be capable of taking advantage of PC advances as well as the next generation of consoles.

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15. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 19, 2012, 17:23 Jerykk
 
Another thing to consider is game development costs. If you want to take advantage of more powerful hardware, you're going to need to invest more time and resources into creating better-looking assets. Epic's Samaritan tech demo looked very impressive but to make an entire game look like that would be very costly. With game budgets already being as high as they are, I don't really see publishers wanting to spend more, especially when looking at the success of the Wii and more casual titles.  
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14. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 19, 2012, 12:51 theyarecomingforyou
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 19, 2012, 11:07:
Why does the truth make you laugh? It took the nVidia 8800 GTX to really catch up with the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 was launched in November 2005. The 8800 GTX was released in November 2006.
However, the lead time with every console generation has diminished. Not only that but all the speculation points to the next generation of consoles playing it safe, rather than going all out like the PS3 and X360 did; they'll obviously be faster but we're only looking at evolutionary upgrades. We've also seen PC ports becoming more important to publishers - despite the fact they still often cut corners - and that means that PC versions are usually considered from earlier in the process (though there are plenty of exceptions). There has been a considerable number of multi-platform titles seeing DX11 features being added (DiRT3, F1 2010/2011, Metro 2033, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Aliens Versus Predator, Battlefield 3, Crysis 2, Dragon Age II, Saints Row: The Third).

Considering that most graphics cards have been capable of pushing out 1080p at decent framerates for years I do not expect the next-gen consoles to offer any improvement over current PC gaming. Microsoft is instead looking to distinguish itself by requiring Kinect, as it will ship with their next console; Sony will be even less likely to push for a mega-platform after the huge financial gamble they took with the PS3.
 
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13. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 19, 2012, 11:07 CJ_Parker
 
KilrathiAce wrote on Feb 19, 2012, 04:23:
ROFL someone wrote that xbox 360 at some point had a "lead" on high end PC, that made my day laughing.

Why does the truth make you laugh? It took the nVidia 8800 GTX to really catch up with the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 was launched in November 2005. The 8800 GTX was released in November 2006.
High end PCs prior to the awesome 8800 series from nVidia got their butt kicked by the Xbox 360, especially on a price/performance level because a single high end GPU would cost a lot more than a Xbox 360 unit back then.

But keep right on laughing. Not my fault you were four years old in 2005 and can't remember shit right...

 
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12. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 19, 2012, 04:23 KilrathiAce
 
ROFL someone wrote that xbox 360 at some point had a "lead" on high end PC, that made my day laughing.  
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11. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 21:58 Jerykk
 
The Xbox 360 had a lead of about a year over back then highend PCs. The same will probably be true for the next gen of consoles. They will most likely kick current high end PC ass and it will take a while until the PC manages to catch up.

I seriously doubt that. When the X360 came out, dual-GPU videocards didn't exist. That's no longer the case. The likelihood of the next-gen consoles having dual-GPU videocards is extremely low, given their size, heat production and power consumption requirements. Also, having 8 gigs of RAM or more is quickly becoming standard in gaming PCs. No chance in hell that any console will have that much since they always skimp on memory. I'm pretty sure next-gen consoles won't have SSD drives either.

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo have learned the importance of practicality. If they want to make systems that surpass current top-end PC specs, then next-gen consoles will be prohibitively expensive to produce. If they want to recoup their losses quickly, they'll have to charge a hefty price for the consoles but this will seriously impact sales. The PS3's initial cost is one of the big reasons why it took so long to gain any traction in the market and the Wii's cost is one of the big reasons why it started selling so quickly. It took years for the PS3 to become profitable and I suspect Sony has learned their lesson.

Given these considerations, next-gen consoles will very likely just be an upgrade from current console hardware but not current PC hardware. Instead of 512MB of memory, they'll probably have 2GB. Instead of using a 7900GTX-equivalent, they will probably use a GTX 550 equivalent.

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10. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 21:08 CJ_Parker
 
Raptor wrote on Feb 18, 2012, 13:38:
Basically what theyarecomingforyou said, so I wouldn't find it that laughable that you can estimate that next gen consoles will have about the same performance that current gen PC's with top specs.

The Xbox 360 had a lead of about a year over back then highend PCs. The same will probably be true for the next gen of consoles. They will most likely kick current high end PC ass and it will take a while until the PC manages to catch up.

This is indeed great news for PC's in general because consoles have been greatly limiting progress.
Being able to develop your next game engines without having to worry about console limitations is a great thing.

Yeah and the best part is if we as PC gamers are going to have to go through the same crap again as every new console cycle with timed console exclusives and shitty performance of the first crop of "next gen" titles and all of that fun stuff that goes along with it .
Seriously though as much as I guess we'd all like to see some advances and games taking advantage of our precious PC specs we should not forget that there is a rather hefty price to pay for this.

 
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9. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 13:38 Raptor
 
Bhruic wrote on Feb 18, 2012, 11:12:
Why not?
Current gen PC's = next gen consoles

Because that's pure speculation? The PS3, for example, had little similarities to the "current PCs" of its era, and required a lot of custom designing for engines. The idea that anyone was able to "take advantage" of it before even knowing the specs of it is laughable.

As was this statement.

Basically what theyarecomingforyou said, so I wouldn't find it that laughable that you can estimate that next gen consoles will have about the same performance that current gen PC's with top specs.

This is indeed great news for PC's in general because consoles have been greatly limiting progress.
Being able to develop your next game engines without having to worry about console limitations is a great thing.

Just imagine your building a house, but for Sweden you have to paint the roof red. It's still a house right?
 
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8. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 12:43 Titus
 
One thing they can (hopefully) be sure of is Sony not taking any chances on crazy ass exotic hardware that only just performs as well as a stripped down PC like the Xbox. Not with the losses they had on their last gamble.  
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7. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 11:54 theyarecomingforyou
 
Bhruic wrote on Feb 18, 2012, 09:44:
It's nice marketing-speak and all, but since they don't know what the specs are for the "next generation of consoles", they really can make any realistic claims about their ability to take advantage of them.
They can assume that the next-gen consoles will include more memory, will require 1080p as the minimum resolution, will require anti-aliasing, will use higher capacity disks, will support increase CPU-thread counts, etc. Obviously they cannot specialise until they receive devkits but that usually comes later in a project; the engine itself remains flexible to scale up and down.

Still, this is good news. It was disappointing that The Witcher 2 didn't support PC specific APIs like DX10/11 but the game still looked great. Next-gen console support can only be a good thing when it comes to PC versions.
 
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6. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 11:12 Bhruic
 
Why not?
Current gen PC's = next gen consoles

Because that's pure speculation? The PS3, for example, had little similarities to the "current PCs" of its era, and required a lot of custom designing for engines. The idea that anyone was able to "take advantage" of it before even knowing the specs of it is laughable.

As was this statement.
 
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5. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 10:47 Raptor
 
Why not?
Current gen PC's = next gen consoles
current gen consoles = 2005

So basically make an engine that takes the most of latest DirectX tech, 3d, physX, shaders etc. and you're set to integrate it to next gen consoles whenever they come out.
 
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4. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 09:44 Bhruic
 
It's nice marketing-speak and all, but since they don't know what the specs are for the "next generation of consoles", they really can make any realistic claims about their ability to take advantage of them.  
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3. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 03:33 SectorEffector
 
entr0py wrote on Feb 18, 2012, 03:15:
KilrathiAce wrote on Feb 18, 2012, 02:06:
"capable of taking advantage of PC advances as well as the next generation of consoles"

lol, love those kind of statements.

I think by next generation consoles, they mean actual next generation ones, not current generation ones.

"the next generation of consoles"

I got that part
 
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2. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 03:15 entr0py
 
KilrathiAce wrote on Feb 18, 2012, 02:06:
"capable of taking advantage of PC advances as well as the next generation of consoles"

lol, love those kind of statements.

I think by next generation consoles, they mean actual next generation ones, not current generation ones.
 
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1. Re: CD Projekt RED on Their New Engine Feb 18, 2012, 02:06 KilrathiAce
 
"capable of taking advantage of PC advances as well as the next generation of consoles"

lol, love those kind of statements.
 
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