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Battlefield 3 Bans Follow-up

The Battlelog forums have a follow-up on recent indications that Battlefield 3 players were being unfairly banned from playing by PunkBuster. Word is: "Together with the 3rd party service providers we have taken steps to remove the faulty bans, and improve the protection against future fake bans. We have determined that the root cause resulting in the server bans is not directly related to Battlefield 3, but rather related to select 3rd party services which server owners can use in conjunction with PunkBuster to protect their servers" (thanks BF3 Blog). Further, Eurogamer notes that DICE is now looking to hire an "Anti-Cheat Administrator" to further their efforts at maintaining a fair playing field.

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41. Re: Battlefield 3 Bans Follow-up Jan 31, 2012, 02:55 Veterator
 
Most hacks/cheaters aren't going to be obvious about it. They want you to be their buddies and hang out with other people in game. So they aren't going to go out of their way to cheat/exploit/etc in obvious ways. They get you to go along with their "people are just that good" mantra. Then the more obvious "good"/cheating ..... if they are of the caliber of player you think exist in droves, they should be competing in the competitions and walking away as a top 10. If they didn't compete in a place that prevents cheating to a higher order than online play......then you can't reasonable expect what they claim to be true.


I would attribute the less subtle hacks to the game being f-in expensive to keep having to buy a new copy if you get caught cheating. So that means their banning/punishment methods are somewhat effective, even if their cheat detection isn't.

And I've seen plenty of cheaters in games, subtle and blatant. I even caught a friend cheating in WoW, and he tried to deny it because he knew I loathed the bots and stuff people employed in WoW that were slowly infesting battlegrounds matches and such. He stuck to the story for a long bit, until I caught him 2 more times and told him if he wasn't botting I think his account was being used without his knowledge. Then he told me the truth, which I knew all along........he was turning on a bot for about 4-5 hours of the day to queue up for and play battlegrounds. He'd play just enough of the day doing other things that you'd think he was around and afk or just not paying attention when the bot was on.

After I learned he was a bot, I saw other people follow the same path as him and play just like him when he was botting...and I found that about half the population in BGs were bots when you played during the lean population hours. I think it had profiles for each type of class, even caught a feral druid that would cat form and cloak a pattern each and every map. He'd walk a loop on one from point to point, and on another he'd make like a T pattern. Just repeating them over and over and over if no one detected him and killed him as soon as he was hit, he'd fight. Even if he had 6-7 players on him. No thinking whatsoever in combat was the prime example of a bot, they wouldn't change the way they did anything. When they died...they'd walk the same path.

And I realize it's not the same with FPS games, but I think it hints at a person's ability to justify their cheating as an "edge" that others are probably using so they should too. Otherwise they are chumps for putting in the time and effort to actually be earn their abilities/place.

It doesn't become cheating when you justify it by saying EVERYONE does it, and the only people who don't are just stupid (You don't use this and keep losing = not fun, so why wouldn't you use this and win - fun?....stupid)/poor(they probably can't afford the up front cost or monthly subscription some hack sites want for their hacks.....cheap mofos)/whiners (They are just jealous of my.....their hacks aren't as good as mine......it's fun to win, so why don't they just win and quit whining.....all of the players on their team has lower scores than our lowest player....they just suck, despite our higher player having more score than our team AND theirs combined....but it's the team supporting him...yeah that's the ticket).

 
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