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Battlefield 3 Bans Follow-up

The Battlelog forums have a follow-up on recent indications that Battlefield 3 players were being unfairly banned from playing by PunkBuster. Word is: "Together with the 3rd party service providers we have taken steps to remove the faulty bans, and improve the protection against future fake bans. We have determined that the root cause resulting in the server bans is not directly related to Battlefield 3, but rather related to select 3rd party services which server owners can use in conjunction with PunkBuster to protect their servers" (thanks BF3 Blog). Further, Eurogamer notes that DICE is now looking to hire an "Anti-Cheat Administrator" to further their efforts at maintaining a fair playing field.

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38. Re: Battlefield 3 Bans Follow-up Jan 30, 2012, 22:47 Paranoid Jack
 
Bhruic wrote on Jan 30, 2012, 13:49:
The thing about "spotting" cheaters is that the cheating has become much more subtle. The days of having a guy with a full-on aimbot are mostly gone - if only because they know they'll get banned fairly quickly. These days, it's mostly about assisted playing - assisted aiming, assisted spotting, etc. For example, having the ability to spot all enemies gives you a leg up, but it doesn't translate into something you can spot as cheating.

Exactly. Most hackers now are not retarded enough to run around sniping people while sprinting about the map... though I still see this on occasion. The majority of hacks I am seeing are in the realm of game assistance versus the old school instant winner hacks.

Almost ever day I play I see suspicious behavior. The most used hack I think are the location hacks.. guys who always know where you are. They come running at you every time as if they see you through the walls or terrain. And are always facing directly at you and shooting the instant they round the corner.

I played with some clan guys the other night, none were using recon so they had no sensors, they where on me within fifteen seconds of spawn every time even though I started camping after spawn to confirm they were wall hacking. There is no way to prove something like that but you would have to be stupid not to recognize it. Wall hacks have been the most popular types of cheats for more than a decade. And the only way to catch them is if the game has built in ability for the admin to see what the player sees. Otherwise the admin has to have the same hack running and sees the suspected player responding to things he can't possibly see unless he is using a hack to see player locations.

Last night this guy would kill me every time even if I had already shot him numerous times spending most of a clip on him. He rarely took any damage when I was hitting him. And the only time I ever killed him was when I caught him with his back to me. It was as if he was hosting the server if you know what I mean. He had a clear latency advantage though his ping was between high thirties to low sixties. Also you have to take into account that if it was skill then why were his scores in line with everyone else? If he was that good his scores should have reflected that but I played with him for hours and his scores never stood out he was just near the top ever time. If you are out gunned by somebody good that is one thing but just being out gunned ever single time even when you had the guy dead to rights that is something else. What else is there besides lag? Hacks of course. I wasn't having any problems killing others since my kill to death ratio was normal about two to one sometimes better sometimes worse. I tend to do worse while defending com stations for example.

Still anything DICE can do is better than nothing. Crazy thing... I still can't believe with all the brilliant hackers out there why none have out done Even Balance and their shitty PunkBuster crap. Oh, well... until then we just have to live with all the morons cheating or stop playing these games.

EDIT:Most hackers now are not retarded enough to run around sniping people while sprinting about the map... though I still see this on occasion. What I meant by this was the hack they have for BBC2 where the player can run around and single shot kill you while sprinting with a sniper rifle. Something that may be possible on occasion but not going to happen ever single time he pulls the trigger. That same guy was shooting everyone on the map from his spawn killing us all instantly within seconds of being spawned.

This comment was edited on Jan 30, 2012, 23:05.
 
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