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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 20, 2012, 06:25 |
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Yeah, but most all first world nations have extradition treaties with each other. Hell, the US probably asks us - Canada - for more people than anyone, and gets refused most of the time.
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| "Are you crazy? Is that your problem?" - Jack Burton |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 20, 2012, 05:38 |
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What I find more Interesting is that the American law apparently is valid in New Zealand and the American GOV can request anyone (not even a citizen of New Zealand or the US) to be put behind bars and extradited- whatever happened to sovereign Nations?
Wait.. is New Zealand a sovereign Nation? |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 20, 2012, 01:56 |
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Supposedly they're back online at 109.236.83.66 but take it at your own risk usual caveats and all that.
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there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong."
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 20, 2012, 01:23 |
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ASeven wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 20:51:
Your representative's stance is in stark contrast to that SOPA backer link there. Ugh, this all seems like a nightmare coming true for humanity as governments start obeying corporations instead of the people that elected them.
What we have is a dog and pony show by and large. When you look at the voting records of the various parties of all the major "democracies" they generally vote the same way 90%-99% of the time wgeb it comes to business issues. But just look at who they all are. I mean it's scary as hell that the USDA is basically run by ex-Monstanto and Cargill execs - who stack everything tgheir way and return to them after their done office to nice big fat rewards just like Cheney. The myopia and greed of the people in charge virtually guarentees a dystopian future. The only way we'll actually have a good future will come with nothing short of a literal revolution. And that won't happen untill things get much worse. However, the way things are going that's going to be much sooner than later. Say in the next 25-50 years. We got lucky. Ours is basically the last generation who will ever have it this good. Your kids, and more likely your grandkids are fucked however.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 20, 2012, 00:33 |
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ASeven wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 20:51:
Your representative's stance is in stark contrast to that SOPA backer link there. Ugh, this all seems like a nightmare coming true for humanity as governments start obeying corporations instead of the people that elected them.
Start? Really? Are you new around here? And by here, I mean earth... : )
-Alamar |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 19, 2012, 22:08 |
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nin wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 20:20:
So there ya have it - even if sopa doesn't pass, the feds can seize a domain any time they want, with no process whatsoever.
whats even worse is how the feds dealt with megaupload. youtube had a walk in the park in comparison. yet both sites served copyright material without consent. both profited. but youtube is seen as legit and was given safe harbor by the feds. something is fishy about this. |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 19, 2012, 21:11 |
ASeven |
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The ironic thing is that the US government hailed the use of the internet on the Arab Spring and then turns around with draconian laws that will censor the Internet even more than China does.
We live in interesting times, using the Chinese definition of the proverb. |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 19, 2012, 20:52 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Prez wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 20:40:
The problem with SOPA is that it removes any due process an owner of a seized website domain might have. To be honest, the current round of 'anti-piracy' laws do this already. You just saw it in action with MU. Well this is gonna be a pisser no one way about it, I know people are already transitioning over to dropbox. But I know a lot of lawyers, and government flappy heads that used MU for even dumping stuff online for people. |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 19, 2012, 20:51 |
ASeven |
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Prez wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 20:40:
The problem with SOPA is that it removes any due process an owner of a seized website domain might have. That the Fed constantly violates Constitutional law is obvious. That doesn't mean we need laws that give them 'ex post facto' permission to do it.
I'm glad to see my district's Representative has reversed her stance on SOPA in light of the overwhelming hate mail she has been receiving over her prior support of it.
Your representative's stance is in stark contrast to that SOPA backer link there. Ugh, this all seems like a nightmare coming true for humanity as governments start obeying corporations instead of the people that elected them. |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 19, 2012, 20:40 |
Prez |
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The problem with SOPA is that it removes any due process an owner of a seized website domain might have. That the Fed constantly violates Constitutional law is obvious. That doesn't mean we need laws that give them 'ex post facto' permission to do it.
I'm glad to see my district's Representative has reversed her stance on SOPA in light of the overwhelming hate mail she has been receiving over her prior support of it. |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 19, 2012, 20:39 |
ASeven |
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Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 20:31:
nin wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 20:20:
So there ya have it - even if sopa doesn't pass, the feds can seize a domain any time they want, with no process whatsoever.
Bingo. Law on the books, tested on the books, passed on the books. Sopa not needed.
This is scary on so many different levels. It might have a silver lining despite everything though, in that it will raise awareness of people to just how fucking powerful the feds and the DOJ is in censoring people everywhere in the world at their whim )or at the corporations whim) and hopefully this Fuck You by the DOJ a day after the net protest against SOPA will rile up the right people to take action.
Otherwise Orwell's 1984 is starting to take a worrying turn to become more real. |
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 19, 2012, 20:31 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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nin wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 20:20:
So there ya have it - even if sopa doesn't pass, the feds can seize a domain any time they want, with no process whatsoever.
Bingo. Law on the books, tested on the books, passed on the books. Sopa not needed. |
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and it is always wrong."
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs |
Jan 19, 2012, 20:20 |
nin |
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So there ya have it - even if sopa doesn't pass, the feds can seize a domain any time they want, with no process whatsoever.
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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