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The Old Republic Cancellation Issues; Trailer

The Star Wars: The Old Republic Forums have posts from players having trouble cancelling their accounts for the MMORPG yesterday on the eve of when the one-month free accounts activated on the game's first day will be billed for their first paid month of service. Massively notes this thread with a workaround, and that customer service suggests customers with such issues contact them by phone. On the other hand, BioWare announces how not cancelling will earn players a "Founder" title, and the website now offers a video showing new features coming to the game in the future. In a separate bit of news related to the game, this post has word from the game's Live Community Coordinator that they have temporarily disabled posting for all community members on the Star Wars: The Old Republic Forums. No explanation for this is offered.

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62. Re: The Old Republic Cancellation Issues; Trailer Jan 19, 2012, 17:58 ASeven
 
Dev wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 17:43:
ASeven wrote on Jan 19, 2012, 17:34:
Yeap, but still not having a profit for 3 years. Which means a huge loss will drain them in an instant. Remember, they are a public company, they are vulnerable to the markets and if their stock plummets for any such reason those 1.5B in cash could correspond to their lost stock capital value.

When you are a public company failing at this level can be very, very punishing since the markets tend not to forgive failures. Since you're public your company worth is closely tied to your stock market worth. Having a lot of cash becomes rather meaningless if the stock market starts to punish them.

If they had had profits for the past years or were a private company like Valve you would be 100% correct, nothing would harm them and surely not this. However they are public and subject to the whims of investors, stock holders and people alike.
Yes, I realize that, but if stockholders were THAT sensitive to losses, then why hasn't EA folded from the losses in the years up until now? I'm saying that IMHO, they can sustain a loss of a few hundred million more.

And here you touch the finicky, almost random nature of markets. They may not punish you for a huge failure but they could destroy you for a success that wasn't as big as you prompted it to be. EA is more of the latter case, because EA promised a lot of stuff about SWTOR like market domination and if these first signs are anything SWTOR will be anything but dominating.

Like I've said, if they were a private company you would be dead on, they would ride this and not give a fuck, however being public means that if the markets suddenly decide that SWTOR failing means they will downgrade your stock value to a very low level then it means there's nothing EA can do to prevent a huge drop in capital worth, even with all their liquid and gross assets. If that drop reaches down enough it may actually force them to fold or be acquired by other companies on the cheap. Either way EA would be done for as an entity. All thanks to the markets and how random they judge successes and failures.
 
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