Verno wrote on Jan 16, 2012, 11:59:
The machine limit wouldn't be the end of the world if the consumer could have any faith in the support department. When the press gets treated like this then it just makes you wonder what your experience will be like.

LuckyorNot wrote on Jan 16, 2012, 12:22:
I wish review sites would use a bit of muscle to get Valve to improve Steam.

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jan 16, 2012, 12:58:

Wolfen wrote on Jan 16, 2012, 12:44:
2 minutes on preparing to load eh? Older machine maybe? Mine is a bit older and I don't even wait that long.

Actually, I've had similar delays myself. It might be related to the internet connection but if it doesn't launch instantly I've had quite a few occasions where it can take 30+ secs. Whereas if I simply restart the Steam client in Offline mode it launches instantly. If it's instant in Offline mode it should be the same online.

Wolfen wrote on Jan 16, 2012, 12:44:
2 minutes on preparing to load eh? Older machine maybe? Mine is a bit older and I don't even wait that long.

LuckyorNot wrote on Jan 16, 2012, 12:22:
I wish review sites would use a bit of muscle to get Valve to improve Steam.
Nothing pisses me off more that sitting down to play a singleplayer game than Steam popping saying 'preparing to launch ...' for 2 minutes before either running the damn game or failing!! ( it's about 50/50 these days )
I wouldn't mind but the two most common games I play I used the pirate-try-and-buy approach(since demos where not available) - both games I loved so bought the legal versions at a retail store - now I have suffer steam!!!
Developers wonder why people pirate games, here's a clue:

Illegal version, download, unzip, doubleclick game.exe - play

Legal version, insert DVD, hit install, wait for steam to sign in ( two attempts ) then steam starts downloading FULL game, despite the fact I have the full game on a shiny new legal DVD in the drive!, cancel steam download, google "how the 'f*&k do I install X game from DVD rather than Steam trying to download' close down steam, open a DOS prompt, run steam with some long command line args, wait for install to finish, close down steam, re load steam normally, sign in again( busy please try in a couple of minutes ) F&*K You steam - try again, I'm in, Game updating, 30mins later, game ready, click play game, 'preparing to launch game' 2 minutes later game starts, hit Play on games own launcher, play game ...
PS: I didn't make any of that up, that's what actually happened a couple of weeks ago when I bought Skyrim on DVD from my local super market. Other game was not quiet as bad, at least it installed from DVD into steam.