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No Mass Effect 3 on Steam; Requires Origin

A post on the BioWare Social Network by BioWare's Chris Priestly has word that EA's Origin service will indeed be a required to play Mass Effect 3, as well as word that the RPG sequel will not be sold via Steam (thanks Voodoo Extreme). Here's word:

3) Is Origin required for the retail versions of the game?
Origin is required for the PC versions of Mass Effect 3, both physical and digital.

4) Will ME3 be available on Steam?
During initial release Mass Effect 3 will be available on Origin and a number of other 3rd party digital retailers, but not on Steam at this time. Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content. We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers.

5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.

6) Iíve seen reports that Origin is spyware. Is this true?
Origin is not spyware, and does not use or install spyware on userís machines. In order to allow Origin to install games and their patches for everyone to use, Origin implements a permission change that results in Windows, not Origin, reviewing the filenames in the ProgramData/Origin folder. This is an ordinary Windows function, not an information-gathering process.

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118. Re: No Mass Effect 3 on Steam; Requires Origin Jan 16, 2012, 01:20 Dev
 
netnerd85 wrote on Jan 16, 2012, 01:04:
You don't own your digital games though, you own the physical copy and no one, no company can ever take your games away from your house.
a) I think you need to research what a EULA means.
b) More and more games nowadays having the disk is meaningless. If its a steamworks game, all the disk means is you save the download time, it still perma associates with your steam account and becomes a steam game. Nowadays if its an origin game (and you can bet almost all future EA titles will be this way), its similarly locked to your origin account. If it has drm, they often can and do disable your game regardless of the disk. Like ubisoft will disable your game WHILE YOU ARE PLAYING IT, if you should have even a momentary loss of internet connection. They also associate your serial with a uPlay or some such account. This annoys the crap out of me when I bought settlers 7. Over a year after the game came out and they are still having trouble keeping the authentication servers up for their always on drm, which means I have trouble playing a SINGLE PLAYER GAME when I want to. The physical disk means nothing in such a case. Games that have limited activations can easily get used up in upgrades or hardware failure, or just plain reinstalling windows to get a clean install on occasion. Once that happens, if you are lucky you might be on hold for hours on the phone trying to get a game you "own" enabled again. If you aren't lucky, the game isn't supported anymore and you are SOL.
EA periodically disables servers for games they publish, some as little as a year old, and not just console servers, but PC ones too. Looks to me like its often to hurry an upgrade to the latest game. Do they care if you have the disk?

Also, since you made an absolute overbroad statement, I can disprove it with a single counter example (regardless of how unlikely it would be). Here's one, you run your own small business out of your home and use MS products. Many volume license agreements say that the company can come into your business (in this case your home) and inspect at any time to make sure you are compliant with the terms of the license. They come in and inspect and you are running 6 copies of windows instead of the 5 you are licensed for. You won't pay the fine, so they sieze your MS disks from your house and stop you from ever using their products again, including that copy of Age of Empires 3 you had.

netnerd85 wrote on Jan 16, 2012, 01:04:
Steam could suddenly start charging a fee for the Steam Client and the way they are heading, they probably will. Gabe LOVES mico-transactions, the SINGLE most EVIL thing EVER.
Highly unlikely, especially with the recent push for F2P games on steam. Adding a fee would tend to reduce that. Plus it goes against one of the big pluses of steam, that you can download a game anywhere anytime, even if you haven't played for years.

Yeah Gabe loves them, in TF2. He says they get a 30% conversion rate from people starting with free TF2 to buying something through TF2. Thats a crazy high rate when the industry standard is more like 3%-5%. Why the heck would they have moved TF2 to a F2P model in the first place if they wanted a fee? They would have kept it as paid if they thought having people PAY for it was still the best option.
Adding a fee would totally screw up that kinda conversion rate. Aint gonna happen.

This comment was edited on Jan 16, 2012, 01:58.
 
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