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Steam Group Seeks Communication

A Call for Communication (Half-Life) on the Steam Community (thanks Brett) now has over 6,000 members, seeking to coerce Valve into spilling some beans about their plans for the Half-Life series:

Your oldest and longest running fanbase would like some form of communication.

Waiting patiently for over four years is a daunting task, especially when E3 comes and goes without any beat of a Half-Life pulse, time and time again. Valve had stated that information was scheduled to be released towards the end of 2008, and we believe that if they have chosen, for whatever reason, to withhold this information, fans should at least be acknowledged in some way, regardless of developmental plans for the next Half-Life project. The entire trilogy of episodes was supposed to be completed and released by 2007, and if Valve have decided to do other things for the time being, that is fine; all that we ask for is a basic response on the matter, and to let fans know whether or not the Half-Life 2 story arc is scheduled to conclude at another point in time.

In addition: This message is in no way, shape or form attempting to rush the development of the Half-Life series; in fact, most members agree that Valve should take the time needed to deliver a complete and polished product.

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28. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 19:15 Dev
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 11:09:
From a post I made a month ago:

Valve has never been fans of announcing games four years before launch. HL2 was announced in May with a release date of September (which it famously missed by a mile, earning Valve a ton of flack and making them guard in-progress games even more tightly.) Portal 2 was announced in March 2010 with a release date of "2010" (which it also missed.) Episode 1 was announced in February 2006 and released in June. TF2, in its current form, was announced summer 2006 and released October 2007. L4D2 was announced in May and released in November.
Yes but in this thread you said SINCE tf2 and hl2. As I mentioned, l4d2 was because it was so close after l4d1 release (and likely they hadn't decided to sell it separately until shortly before announcing, since they had previously promised that kinda content as DLC updates for l4d1).
 
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27. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 11:09 Beamer
 
Verno wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 10:34:
They announced DOTA 2 because it has a long and lengthy beta period that requires input from "pro" players in terms of balance and whatnot. L4D1 was a purchased property announced by Turtle Rock.

We don't know what the actual Half-Life team is working on but presumably it's Half-Life 3 given the silence and refusal to comment from Valve. I also doubt there will be an actual third episode anymore, I think they'll just roll it into Half-Life 3 somehow. I'm more interested in seeing what they're doing with the latest iteration of the Source engine more than anything else.

Yup.
From a post I made a month ago:

Valve has never been fans of announcing games four years before launch. HL2 was announced in May with a release date of September (which it famously missed by a mile, earning Valve a ton of flack and making them guard in-progress games even more tightly.) Portal 2 was announced in March 2010 with a release date of "2010" (which it also missed.) Episode 1 was announced in February 2006 and released in June. TF2, in its current form, was announced summer 2006 and released October 2007. L4D2 was announced in May and released in November.
 
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26. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 10:57 nin
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 10:45:
Or perhaps Valve has been working solidly on Half-Life 3 since 2007 and we're going to see a truly epic game, with mind-blowing graphics. And perhaps it will be entirely co-op, with some MMO elements. And perhaps they'll discount it and bundle it with other titles to create a follow-up to The Orange Box as a reward for fans.

Or perhaps they're sick of the Half-Life universe and have decided that making hats for TF2 is both more fun and more profitable.

You almost had me there ("man, he's an optimist")...but I think your second paragraph is much more likely.

 
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25. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 10:45 theyarecomingforyou
 
Or perhaps Valve has been working solidly on Half-Life 3 since 2007 and we're going to see a truly epic game, with mind-blowing graphics. And perhaps it will be entirely co-op, with some MMO elements. And perhaps they'll discount it and bundle it with other titles to create a follow-up to The Orange Box as a reward for fans.

Or perhaps they're sick of the Half-Life universe and have decided that making hats for TF2 is both more fun and more profitable.
 
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24. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 10:34 Verno
 
They announced DOTA 2 because it has a long and lengthy beta period that requires input from "pro" players in terms of balance and whatnot. L4D1 was a purchased property announced by Turtle Rock.

We don't know what the actual Half-Life team is working on but presumably it's Half-Life 3 given the silence and refusal to comment from Valve. I also doubt there will be an actual third episode anymore, I think they'll just roll it into Half-Life 3 somehow. I'm more interested in seeing what they're doing with the latest iteration of the Source engine more than anything else.
 
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23. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 10:20 Dev
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 08:03:
And do you know why Valve says nothing? Well, according to Dev it's because they're too busy making Left4DeadVille, but Dev is wearing some tinfoil hats. Like, several of them.
They don't say anything because it's a lose-lose situation. If they say something, then they get delayed, or they discuss a feature that gets cut (Mr. Friendly?), they get a huge fan backlash. Suddenly everything they do is under a microscope. And even if they just say "we're working on it" then they get a billion questions about it (right now the question is just a standard "where is it" which is by now done more out of obligation.) And if they say anything at all now people will bitch about them "hyping" their game, a pathetically vague term.

Valve doesn't announce games until they're close to shipping. Ever since the TF2 debacle and the HL2 fiasco they've done it this way. They typically ship 4-6 months after announcement. Want HL3 announced? Wait until 6 months before it's in your hands.
Nope, left 4 dead series is one of those that seems mostly to have been left alone now. I mentioned what they are working on in a post yesterday. dota and TF2 stuff. Just because its my OPINION they aren't working on hl3/ep3 doesn't mean I'm ignoring facts.

I agree though that game companies get screwed either way if they say something too far out or don't say anything.

4-6 months though is NOT accurate for valve's recent activities. They announced dota 2 over a year ago. L4D1 was announced about 2 years in advance. L4D2 was indeed about that time, but likely because it was only decided to make a separate game around that time, and announcing it sooner would have put it right after l4d1 release and killed its sales.
 
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22. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 09:51 Beamer
 
nin wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 09:38:

I still haven't finished HL2 or even touched the two add-on expansions

The two Episodes weren't that great. But you should really finish HL2. The mad rush of storming the citadel is awesome!

I thought Episode 2 was great, but disliked Episode 1. Episode 1 found me getting incredibly sick of the zombies moaning, then followed it up with babysitting NPCs. I didn't like it. If I recall ammo was an issue, too, making the zombies more time consuming.

But Episode 2 I remember loving.
 
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21. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 09:38 nin
 

I still haven't finished HL2 or even touched the two add-on expansions

The two Episodes weren't that great. But you should really finish HL2. The mad rush of storming the citadel is awesome!
 
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20. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 09:14 Shok
 
I still haven't finished HL2 or even touched the two add-on expansions. I did finish portal in the orange box though. /duck

Seriously though, I'd rather have no info than constant hype like was done for nearly two years straight with SW:TOR. Just surprise me 3-4 months before the game is released don't tease me with shit for years.
 
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19. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 08:44 finga
 
Talk about a first world problem.  
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18. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 08:25 Tim
 
Beamer wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 08:03:
Kastagir wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 02:39:
I met Gabe Newell back in 1998. He was half the man he is now.

If this group has 6000 signatures, that won't be meaningless, especially if they get press. I'll enjoy seeing Valve get scrutinized for their response. They've been given a free pass for far too long in my opinion.

Aside from your stupid fat joke your post is idiotic. "Given a free pass?" By whom? People whine about HL constantly. Constantly.

And do you know why Valve says nothing? Well, according to Dev it's because they're too busy making Left4DeadVille, but Dev is wearing some tinfoil hats. Like, several of them.
They don't say anything because it's a lose-lose situation. If they say something, then they get delayed, or they discuss a feature that gets cut (Mr. Friendly?), they get a huge fan backlash. Suddenly everything they do is under a microscope. And even if they just say "we're working on it" then they get a billion questions about it (right now the question is just a standard "where is it" which is by now done more out of obligation.) And if they say anything at all now people will bitch about them "hyping" their game, a pathetically vague term.

Valve doesn't announce games until they're close to shipping. Ever since the TF2 debacle and the HL2 fiasco they've done it this way. They typically ship 4-6 months after announcement. Want HL3 announced? Wait until 6 months before it's in your hands.

This, this and this. Damned either way!
 
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17. Who, me? Jan 12, 2012, 08:24 Quboid
 
I don't know who submitted this, but this is the first I've heard of this initiative.  
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16. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 08:03 Beamer
 
Kastagir wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 02:39:
I met Gabe Newell back in 1998. He was half the man he is now.

If this group has 6000 signatures, that won't be meaningless, especially if they get press. I'll enjoy seeing Valve get scrutinized for their response. They've been given a free pass for far too long in my opinion.

Aside from your stupid fat joke your post is idiotic. "Given a free pass?" By whom? People whine about HL constantly. Constantly.

And do you know why Valve says nothing? Well, according to Dev it's because they're too busy making Left4DeadVille, but Dev is wearing some tinfoil hats. Like, several of them.
They don't say anything because it's a lose-lose situation. If they say something, then they get delayed, or they discuss a feature that gets cut (Mr. Friendly?), they get a huge fan backlash. Suddenly everything they do is under a microscope. And even if they just say "we're working on it" then they get a billion questions about it (right now the question is just a standard "where is it" which is by now done more out of obligation.) And if they say anything at all now people will bitch about them "hyping" their game, a pathetically vague term.

Valve doesn't announce games until they're close to shipping. Ever since the TF2 debacle and the HL2 fiasco they've done it this way. They typically ship 4-6 months after announcement. Want HL3 announced? Wait until 6 months before it's in your hands.
 
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15. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 07:31 Kajetan
 
nin wrote on Jan 11, 2012, 21:53:
Occupy Gabe's Office!
Occupy Gabe! There's plenty of him for every one ...
 
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14. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 05:51 Optimaximal
 
Kastagir wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 02:39:
I met Gabe Newell back in 1998. He was half the man he is now.

j/k?
 
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13. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 02:39 Kastagir
 
I met Gabe Newell back in 1998. He was half the man he is now.

If this group has 6000 signatures, that won't be meaningless, especially if they get press. I'll enjoy seeing Valve get scrutinized for their response. They've been given a free pass for far too long in my opinion.
 
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12. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 01:43 axe1970
 
They should sue Valve for all that heartache. Poor Fans.

OMG what is this world coming too?

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11. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 01:29 Dev
 
Cutter wrote on Jan 12, 2012, 01:13:
Yeah, but this is just starting too. It could easily go into the millions. And wth is it going to hurt them to acknowledge that, no, they haven't abandoned or forgotten HL or that yes, we are working on it and it will be out when it's done.
Millions?
Extremely unlikely.
a) because only 2 groups out of bazillions even barely break 1 million members. One is the steam holiday one where people got rewards for doing so, and since it was free and no specific games required, it was one that got hit hugely by exploiters buying the 1 cent humble bundle pack.
b) There's was about 30 million active steam accounts before the sale as I recall, I think its unlikely that that big of a percentage of them will sign up on a group like that. In fact there's not even a half life related group in the top 50, and after the top 50 its under 80,000 in a group. If there was that much interest in it, I'd think that a half life related group would already be at least in the top 50.

If it was just an online petition, I could see it hitting over a million, but a steam group? IMHO, not going to happen.
 
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10. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 01:13 Cutter
 
Yeah, but this is just starting too. It could easily go into the millions. And wth is it going to hurt them to acknowledge that, no, they haven't abandoned or forgotten HL or that yes, we are working on it and it will be out when it's done.

 
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9. Re: Steam Group Seeks Communication Jan 12, 2012, 01:08 Jerykk
 
Pretty pointless. Valve isn't going to reveal anything about HL3 until they're ready. People have been complaining about the lack of info for years. Why would Valve suddenly change their position now?  
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