Watter wrote on Jan 9, 2012, 22:57:

Verno wrote on Jan 9, 2012, 08:43:
You're playing on Adept..

Actually, I was playing on Expert, and then at the end on Master, but I get your point.

Verno wrote on Jan 9, 2012, 08:43:
You're playing on Adept..

Creston wrote on Jan 9, 2012, 16:53:

Dades wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 22:13:
SkyUI just updated to 2.0 which includes barter/container/magic menus. Running modless just became that much harder

Shit. The day AFTER I stopped playing. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Creston

Dades wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 22:13:
SkyUI just updated to 2.0 which includes barter/container/magic menus. Running modless just became that much harder

Jerykk wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 18:47:
That said, the game has plenty of scripting bugs without mods. For example, Boethia's quest line is completely broken.

Verno wrote on Jan 9, 2012, 08:43:

Watter wrote on Jan 9, 2012, 08:35:
I have quite a few hours in but I'm not sure how you guys with 80+ in one playthrough do it. Even without grinding through smithing/enchanting, by the time I was lvl 39 I was so powerful that exploring and combat had lost any kind of tension or interest. I would walk through room in a dungeon and try to aggro as many as I could and then kill them all with just a few shots without losing much health. It's frustrating because exploration is the best part of the game. I turned the difficulty all the way up, but it didn't help much.

Don't get me wrong; I want the reward of feeling powerful after investing the the time and effort to build my character, but there still needs to be some challenge left somewhere.

You're playing on Adept, if you play on the harder difficulties the game is much more challenging. Even a simple 2 on 1 encounter can be extremely deadly. Enchanting and Smithing tend to break the game if powerleveled, if they are leveled naturally it is a reasonable curve.

Im hoping some kind of standalone expansion ala Fallout: New Vegas is done by Obsidian at some point in the future.

Watter wrote on Jan 9, 2012, 08:35:
I have quite a few hours in but I'm not sure how you guys with 80+ in one playthrough do it. Even without grinding through smithing/enchanting, by the time I was lvl 39 I was so powerful that exploring and combat had lost any kind of tension or interest. I would walk through room in a dungeon and try to aggro as many as I could and then kill them all with just a few shots without losing much health. It's frustrating because exploration is the best part of the game. I turned the difficulty all the way up, but it didn't help much.

Don't get me wrong; I want the reward of feeling powerful after investing the the time and effort to build my character, but there still needs to be some challenge left somewhere.

Creston wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 21:34:

Risky why? In fact, the delay of the CK has actually been something of a blessing, because most of the mods we're seeing now that alter gameplay have been done through hex editing, and thus are far more stable and non-wonky than the typical initial batch of CK mods would be.

I've got ~ 20 odd mods running and no issues anywhere.

Creston

Dades wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 19:48:

This post is very misleading, most mods are not going to force you to start over any more than a bug in the game itself will. The game is best played modded and even many of the pre-CK mods achieve some pretty incredible things.

For anyone curious I'm using:

Whiterun HD textures
SkyUI
Realistic Water Textures
Realistic Thunder Sounds
Skyrim Enhanced Nights
Skyrim Enhanced Shaders
Player Home Map Markers
RichMerchants
Weapons of the Third Era
Faster Horse Sprint
Skyrim Flora Overhaul

And some other assorted things. Perfectly stable, little to no FPS loss and the game looks vastly better.

Kastagir wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 18:06:

Techie714 © wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 15:57:
OMG! Skyrim has been tearing it up like crazy on these charts. I have about 15 hours into the game & so far I can totally see why some folks are dumping 70+ hours BEFORE even getting to the main quest. The game just has so much to explore & see, & experience. This is such a great game but the mods make it even better. I have some great mods added that increase the graphics & textures to make the game absolutely GORGEOUS. "I'm lovin it"!

I'd try to play the game at least most of the way through before using pre-CK mods. Many of them are just too risky, though if you don't mind starting over after dumping 50+ hours into a character then go ahead and roll those dice...

The game is stunning without mods, and very solid. I'm looking forward to Bethesda addressing alchemy/enchanting/smithing balance, though.

Kastagir wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 18:06:

Techie714 © wrote on Jan 8, 2012, 15:57:
OMG! Skyrim has been tearing it up like crazy on these charts. I have about 15 hours into the game & so far I can totally see why some folks are dumping 70+ hours BEFORE even getting to the main quest. The game just has so much to explore & see, & experience. This is such a great game but the mods make it even better. I have some great mods added that increase the graphics & textures to make the game absolutely GORGEOUS. "I'm lovin it"!

I'd try to play the game at least most of the way through before using pre-CK mods. Many of them are just too risky, though if you don't mind starting over after dumping 50+ hours into a character then go ahead and roll those dice...

The game is stunning without mods, and very solid. I'm looking forward to Bethesda addressing alchemy/enchanting/smithing balance, though.

I'd try to play the game at least most of the way through before using pre-CK mods. Many of them are just too risky, though if you don't mind starting over after dumping 50+ hours into a character then go ahead and roll those dice...