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BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned

Battlefield 3 lead designer Alan Kertz tweets about plans to nerf the Famas rifle from the Back to Karkand DLC for Battlefield 3: "After playing with and without fore grip on my FAMAS, not sure I could nerf it enough lol. Hmm, this one is a biiiiiiiiiit OP." The DICE weapons expert explains on reddit why he wasn't available to catch this prior to release:  "I was on vacation, I think the Back 2 Karkand team did a great job without me, and the FAMAS just demonstrates that the foregrip is OP. It's the only accessory without any downside. Given that the FAMAS is very difficult to use without the foregrip, I can't really blame the team on B2K for having an item from the base game OP one of their additions. We'll get this sorted out and in the mean time, it's still only good at mid to close range." Thanks BF3blog.

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13. Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Dec 28, 2011, 13:26 bhcompy
 
Wildone wrote on Dec 28, 2011, 11:32:
Jets are just a mere annoyance to choppers, you can't gun them down unless they are really stupid and dont change direction, most are not so dumb. Takes at least 2 or 3 passes with the gun on the jet. It should be possible in 1 sweep, given the fact bullets going thru a chopper blade should be insta death..but I know its a 'game' still DICE, lets have some pretense of semi-realism! Most of the maps I've played on they completely OWN the air, and most of the ground. They pulverize AA first, land behind a building for a quick repair and on their way again. People working together to SOFLAM them? I've never seen it yet. They're flare recharge rate is quicker than jets missles and stinger reloads. So unless 3 people all stinger them that aint happening. There's always exceptions but my experience its choppers that are owning this game due to someone at Dice who just loves em!!!

I don't have an issue taking out choppers with jets unless there is a great deal of AA or other jets hunting me. I use various configurations for this, either laser designator with the tv missile + guns or guns + belt speed or missiles + guns(with or without beam scanning). Good pilots still make it difficult and sometimes it takes an extra pass, but slowing down to the point of stalling definitely gives you enough time to take them out given a lack of outside interference(I like to fly to the top of the map and come straight down to avoid flying low and slow with all the AA generally around).

Plus, unless you know they don't have flares, you only fire one missile at a time so you can quickly relock and shove a missile up their ass after they blow flairs(beam scanning helps a lot here given the tight timeframe before you either stall completely or pass them). One missile won't disable, but mixed with guns it's generally enough to at least disable at worst

Paranoid Jack wrote on Dec 28, 2011, 12:48:
edit:To explain the shooting before the lock on... the game is sometimes out of sync by a second or so. I've run around the corner of a building while under fire several times and after rounding the corner died from bullets hitting me which clearly couldn't have hit me since there is no longer a line of site. So how could they hit me? Because on the other end (the guy firing at me or the server side) I'm still out in the open. Been the same with all the Dice games that I can remember... at least.

And, technically, this is the same with all games today. It's prediction(what Quake called pushlatency). Games have had it built in since QuakeWorld. DICEs engines have never been that efficient when it comes to latency, so it does show up worse than something that has been much more optimized(like a Quake derivative engine such as Source)
 
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  1. Dec 28, 10:57 Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Wildone
  2. Dec 28, 10:59  Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Shineyguy
  3. Dec 28, 11:02   Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Wildone
  5. Dec 28, 11:19    Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Matshock
  8. Dec 28, 11:32     Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Wildone
>> 13. Dec 28, 13:26      Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned bhcompy
  15. Dec 28, 13:48       Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Dev
  4. Dec 28, 11:16 Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Techie714
  6. Dec 28, 11:27  Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Wildone
  9. Dec 28, 11:33   Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned eRe4s3r
  10. Dec 28, 12:29    Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Wildone
  11. Dec 28, 12:48     Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned Paranoid Jack
  28. Dec 28, 18:30      Re: BF3 Famas Rifle Changes Planned LittleMe
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