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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 04:19 |
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Riker wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 13:22:
So, those who have played, is it as much of a WoW clone as it has looked to be from the start? Does it evoke any of the amazing kickassity of either of the preceding Knights of the Old Republic games?
I spent admittedly very little time in the closed beta, but it was exactly what I was expecting... WoW in space. Which isn't all horrible, but it's not what I wanted, and not worth my money or time.
From my beta experiences: The gameplay mechanics are very WoW-clone-ish, but the quests, story and environment is a massive step-up. The quests and story were the actual driving elements that kept me playing, and not the levels/experience/etc. that WoW hooked on you.
I did not subscribe because it did indeed feel very much like a single-player experience. This game probably would've been a lot better as a non-MMO multiplayer game (ie you can play it with a few friends or online folks). This game doesn't seem to try anything new in the MMORPG gameplay department, aside from adding a meaningful story and quests. I don't think that's enough, sadly.
Now, Guild Wars 2 is one title I am definitely looking forward to, because they are trying some interesting things in the mmorpg gameplay department, such as automatic partying (helping a random person in the wilderness actually *gets* you stuff!!!), and dynamic world events, which seamlessly group participating players and the event scales dynamically with the participation count. Sounds really cool! Of course, Guild Wars will still have its (improved) story system, unlike World of Warcraft which had absolutely no story. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 04:19 |
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There are "surround sound" headphones that have multiple drivers in each ear cup to deliver legitimate surround sound. I used to own such a pair and they worked OK for positioning, but now I use higher-end stereo cans.
Fact of the matter is human beings have two ears, and two audio sources are perfectly capable of delivering directional audio. More audio sources are extraneous. I've been using CMSS3D for a number of years now. Using my headphones versus my speakers in no way handicaps me.
It's just science. Your brain is simply guessing where any given sound is coming from. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 03:05 |
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Drayth wrote on Dec 28, 2011, 02:05:
About the headgear, yes.. plunk down the money for a good set of audiophile headphones, and a good soundcard with a headphone amplifier. I actually use the highest end X-Fi sound card and love it.. but I know that's not a popular pick in these parts. That with a high end Sennheiser (HD-598's are great.. I had them before I upgraded). Skip their "gaming headphones".
Edit-Oh, nm.. you're not listening. (no pun intended)
I have an Auzentech X-Fi card that I bought for my last build for the digital output. No end of little issues, and I've heard similar things about the "actual" X-Fi cards. I switched over to the onboard after my last build, and the sound quality is definitely no worse. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 03:05 |
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I've never understood the idea that by placing earphones over your TWO ears you're going to get 'Surround Sound'. Yes, it has a micro-woofer and displaced a centimeter back and a tweeter a few millimeters ahead. They're still covering your ears.
The game audio gives you clues, not the location of the speakers in your ear cannal.
Does anyone remember the Zalman Doom 3 uber headphones?
Just get a set of good headphones for your ears and don't forget about the cable. Most headphones come with the weakest wires possible and will break just by hanging off your input jack. If you think that surround sound headphones work then, whatever....
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 02:05 |
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About the headgear, yes.. plunk down the money for a good set of audiophile headphones, and a good soundcard with a headphone amplifier. I actually use the highest end X-Fi sound card and love it.. but I know that's not a popular pick in these parts. That with a high end Sennheiser (HD-598's are great.. I had them before I upgraded). Skip their "gaming headphones".
Edit-Oh, nm.. you're not listening. (no pun intended) |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 01:57 |
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Drezden wrote on Dec 28, 2011,
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I looked at Audio Technica's and Sennheisers, I didn't like any of them and had clanmates who swore by their G930's. You, and him, can talk down about them all you want. But the fact of the matter is, it has nothing to do with "buzzwords". The surround works great, especially in games like BF3 and CS, where knowing where shit is coming from is a priority. And they sound amazing. So be a hater all you want.
man i wouldn't worry! you're clearly not in the demographic for high end equipment, you're in the demographic for high end marketing and plastic bits matched with bloated software that allows you to have no conscious thought about it's quality or operation. infact you'd prol really dig the game this thread is supposed to be about. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 01:48 |
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Cutter wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 23:37:
CreamyBlood wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 19:57:
Has anyone here tried Dungeons and Dragons Online (DDO)?
Yep, DDO rocks! So does LOTR. I'm back to EQ2 atm - the world, plethora of classes/races and crafting are still far superior to ever other MMO out there IMO. As for DDO it takes a while to get into it and get it, so to speak, but when you do and meet some people to run dungeons with it's hella fun. The dynamic style combat is so much more better than any other MMO. Monks and bards are particular fun - for me at any rate. I haven't been back to DDO in year - as I wanted to let some new content get in - but will definitely be heading back soon, same with LOTR.
Yeah, I'll have to check out those two. I'm a big Conan fan but have avoided all of this thinking they were stupid. In the case of DDO, your stats and party matters. You can breeze through the first couple of levels and then it takes the pussy gloves off and you start seeing some real depth to the game. I was pleasantly surprised and pummeled at the same time.
The sad thing is that we have to resort to MMO's (often in single player mode, for me) in the Year 2011 to get any kind of complexity or challenge.
They have drag and drop inventories in DDO. I wouldn't normally think of that as a feature, just something to take for granted. Sad, sad days.
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 01:38 |
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Jerykk wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 23:07:
I'd have to say it's one of the few games released in the last *many* years that actually feels like, get this, an RPG.
Did you not play Fallout: New Vegas? That's the best RPG since Arcanum. Possibly one of the best RPGs ever. You can actually talk, sneak or fight your way through most of the quests, something most RPGs don't let you do.
Yes, I played it quite a bit until just after getting to NV. Then I kind of burnt out, heard they were going add some content then thought I'd wait for the 'finished game'. Apparently it's coming out early next year. I'm not sure why they do that, but anyways, I'll revisit it.
I don't think it's that hot though, they did the best they could with a what their working with. That said, I guess I'll go out on a limb in say that it was fun but bogged down because it didn't know what what it was. It failed as a shooter yet the almost made it as an RPG. Of course, I agree, it's probably the only thing I've seen in years that is close to an RPG.
I'm a big fan of PnP RPGs, cRPGS and FPS's. I love them all. I also like many other genres, but really, I have yet to see a great one in the last half decade or so. Many people think DX is the pinnacle, I actually preffered System Shock 2. So why can't anything come close to those games?
Look at Bioshock, a disaster. Beautiful atmosphere and setting, I was absorbed by the story, for awhile. Mediocre 'shooter' gameplay and eventually patheting 'RPG' elements. I was really pissed off at how they fucked that up.
Now look at Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, same thing, but it 'knew what it was'. The RPG elements were just as superficial as Bioshock, but they built a damn good slasher around it. They concentrated on the game. The 'RPG' elements were just as useless and meaningless but What a blast. It's a much, much better game. Because it knew it was a linear FPS.
How about DX3? I just finished it. I think it had mostly the same problems as Bioshock, the RPG elements were ultimately pointless (I played on no cover button, compass, console shit options off, yaddadaydada) but it still turned out to be a good game. It was a tough shooter. Not an RPG. Nice story and exploration, or good enough for todays standards anyways.
Or look at Risen, my favourate. Yes it's an action RPG/Adventure. Great stuff. The RPG (stats) elements are fairly light and possibly on par with Bioshock/DX3 in simplicity, but they somehow managed to make a challenging fun RPG game out of it.
To make a long story short, I'd go: Risen, Dark Messiah then possibly a tie between New Vegas and DX3. Obviously none of those are actually RPG's but they all tried to do what they set out to do, or are at lease *able* to . All are good games. I'm still torn between NV and DX3 but they both did things differently. DX had a half decent engine okay AI combat, whereas NV was stuck between a shitty engine and a hard rock. Yes, NV is the closest to an RPG, but look at the game! Not sure how they fucked up exploration, interface, 'shooter/action' and 'fun factor'. When you've played FPS's all your life and RPG's all your life and go through that it just becomes tedious.
I realize that NV is the most RPG'ish out of them all and would win any competition in a second, if it was in any of the other engines. Truly, PB and Obsidian could make a great game. But, this is just my opinion. New Vegas was a valiant attempt, but when an FPS beats you out just because of simple mechanics and gameplay, what can you do?
Either make yourself a kick-ass FPS or a kick-ass RPG. Not a half-assed attempt at both. It's irriating. Do what you do well, not compromise. Look at Rage. What a dissapointment. Nice experiment but WTF???
Tonight I'll go watch a Michael Bay, blow-em up, romantic love story set in a dystopian post apocolyptic future with violence, sex and endearing lol cats to tug my heart. Should appeal to everyone, right?
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 00:44 |
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Yeah, I mean after this month I'll see. But so far, it hasn't kept my attention like WoW. Blizzard made me a fan of their games by being so great I was actually thinking about how incredible their mechanics are, how incredibly creative the artwork is/was, the textures the sound. Before that I played Warcraft 1,2,3/Starcraft/Diablo 1+2, WoW was the final nail for me to realize Blizzard are genius game creators, I have always like Bioware games but have felt them to be somewhat shallow like Hollywood films. Same with Bethesda... making epic hiking simulators.
I was down for the idea, mix WoW with Mass Effect in the Star Wars universe, how could it go wrong? I used to make fun of WoW by saying it is probably the most capitalistic game for capitalists ever made... but this shit takes that to a whole new level, ideologically. I'm still having fun but I am in no way immersed. If I were immersed I wouldn't even be here writing. Shit, when WoW came out my friends hardly saw me for 3 months and I kept playing for another 4 years and in it ll of that time I had fucking trouble pulling myself away from it's psychedelic gloriousness Haha. Something is missing from this game and I think it is a soul. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 00:30 |
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Drezden wrote on Dec 28, 2011, 00:14:
I looked at Audio Technica's and Sennheisers, I didn't like any of them and had clanmates who swore by their G930's. You, and him, can talk down about them all you want. But the fact of the matter is, it has nothing to do with "buzzwords". The surround works great, especially in games like BF3 and CS, where knowing where shit is coming from is a priority. And they sound amazing. So be a hater all you want.
You have to listen to headphones to get an idea of their performance, not look at amazon reviews and you don't need fake virtual surround to get sound placement. It's a product you own, not a personal extension of yourself. If it works for you then that's all that matters, no need to get worked up and call other people haters because they offer a view or criticism of something you own. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 28, 2011, 00:14 |
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Dades wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 23:55:
Drezden wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 23:32:
Yeah, they must suck since they're one of the highest rated headsets out there. I am so ashamed for owning them since they sound amazing with every game I play. I should return them. I'll take advice from the guy who has posted here 8 times.
He's right, he's just very snooty about it. Most headsets are extremely overpriced and offer very poor performance, the G930 is no different. Most people are happy to pay that price though because of the perception that more money automatically means better or because they fall for marketing buzzwords/features. Surround headsets are a good example and most gamer peripherals are poorly constructed, offer mediocre performance versus actual high end gear. Don't take my word for it either, ask some real audio professionals who rate these things or just crack open your own headset for a minute to see the parts inside.
A good set of cans (check out Audio Technica, Beyer or Sennheiser) and a mic taped to the side are going to be a pretty mind blowing improvement even for a non-audiophile. Of course many people will be happy with a gamer headset and there's nothing wrong with that, you can't miss what you haven't experienced after all.
I looked at Audio Technica's and Sennheisers, I didn't like any of them and had clanmates who swore by their G930's. You, and him, can talk down about them all you want. But the fact of the matter is, it has nothing to do with "buzzwords". The surround works great, especially in games like BF3 and CS, where knowing where shit is coming from is a priority. And they sound amazing. So be a hater all you want. |
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For the Republic
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 23:56 |
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heroin wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 19:41:
It can be both fun and a waste of time, it is a MMO. If I'm not convinced it is worth delving into until the end by paying a subscription then I would be wasting my time now wouldnt I?
Maybe this is your philosophy. Personally, I think the game as it is is worth the initial price for the month. If it's worth another 3 months, I will pay for another 3 months. If it stops being fun, or stops being worth the price to play (not necessarily the same thing), then I will stop subbing. As I have done to WoW, because I am having more fun here than I have in WoW in months. If things change later, I will change later.
I don't see mmos as something you need to sell your soul for, or something that absolutely has to take 5 years of my life. In fact, with so many other cool mmos on the horizon, I am hoping that this game does get boring by then, so that I can move on. Having fun playing a game is not wasted time in my book.
heroin wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 19:41:
It may be subjective, but lets not forget that Blizzard created their art style and everything in it. But, one thing is for certain ambient and environmental sound just simply aren't there in the way it was implemented in BC going forward in this Star Wars MMO.
I agree, they could do a bit more with the sound. Running between quests feels stale in some parts. Most of the landscape is actually pretty good, but there are spots that feel like they are missing something.
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 23:55 |
Dades |
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Drezden wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 23:32:
Yeah, they must suck since they're one of the highest rated headsets out there. I am so ashamed for owning them since they sound amazing with every game I play. I should return them. I'll take advice from the guy who has posted here 8 times.
He's right, he's just very snooty about it. Most headsets are extremely overpriced and offer very poor performance, the G930 is no different. Most people are happy to pay that price though because of the perception that more money automatically means better or because they fall for marketing buzzwords/features. Surround headsets are a good example and most gamer peripherals are poorly constructed, offer mediocre performance versus actual high end gear. Don't take my word for it either, ask some real audio professionals who rate these things or just crack open your own headset for a minute to see the parts inside.
A good set of cans (check out Audio Technica, Beyer or Sennheiser) and a mic taped to the side are going to be a pretty mind blowing improvement even for a non-audiophile. Of course many people will be happy with a gamer headset and there's nothing wrong with that, you can't miss what you haven't experienced after all. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 23:37 |
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CreamyBlood wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 19:57:
Has anyone here tried Dungeons and Dragons Online (DDO)?
Yep, DDO rocks! So does LOTR. I'm back to EQ2 atm - the world, plethora of classes/races and crafting are still far superior to ever other MMO out there IMO. As for DDO it takes a while to get into it and get it, so to speak, but when you do and meet some people to run dungeons with it's hella fun. The dynamic style combat is so much more better than any other MMO. Monks and bards are particular fun - for me at any rate. I haven't been back to DDO in year - as I wanted to let some new content get in - but will definitely be heading back soon, same with LOTR.
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 23:32 |
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Vach wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 23:20:
Drezden wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 20:42:
I have a high quality headset for my gaming (G930)
LOL @ the high end comment.
You my friend have no idea what high end headset is all about 
Yeah, they must suck since they're one of the highest rated headsets out there. I am so ashamed for owning them since they sound amazing with every game I play. I should return them. I'll take advice from the guy who has posted here 8 times.
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 23:20 |
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Drezden wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 20:42:
I have a high quality headset for my gaming (G930)
LOL @ the high end comment.
You my friend have no idea what high end headset is all about |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 23:07 |
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I'd have to say it's one of the few games released in the last *many* years that actually feels like, get this, an RPG.
Did you not play Fallout: New Vegas? That's the best RPG since Arcanum. Possibly one of the best RPGs ever. You can actually talk, sneak or fight your way through most of the quests, something most RPGs don't let you do. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 21:31 |
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| Sounds like you are very happy with the game. I am just going to play out the Sith assassin storyline then figure out what I want to do from there. In the meantime, this game is a good filler in between WoW raid nights. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 21:08 |
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I don't care how good the game is. The EA logo on it means I won't buy it.
I don't agree with how they have been closing multiplayer servers on games that are so new.
Never getting another dime from me. |
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Re: The Old Republic Stats |
Dec 27, 2011, 20:42 |
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Hatyara wrote on Dec 27, 2011, 19:21:
My character is level 33 so I have gone to Nar Shadda - it was not that great, I am up to Taris at the moment. I don't know much about Star Wars lore so I would not know what is good or bad, I just feel that the world environments while looking great graphically are not as well put together as they could be. When your standing there you just don't get the full immersion, maybe some work on the sound department would fix that.
I would rather queue up for a group and do things in the world, like archeology or daily quests or tradeskills etc then sit there sitting spamming in general that I need a healer or DPS to finish a heroic quest or a flashpoint.
Also, disclaimer, I have not played any Bioware game before. This is the first bioware title I have played.
I can't agree with your sound complaints either. Maybe it's because I have a high quality headset for my gaming (G930) but the game sounds fantastic to me. Tatooine had little ambient things like being able to hear sand people screaming off in the distance even when there was nothing else around. Most areas that have battles going on you can here orbital cannons or some other such things firing. I just can't agree. |
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