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Op Ed

Kotaku - Nerds and Male Privilege.
The idea that perhaps the way women are portrayed in fandom is aleetle sexist is regularly met with denials, justifications and outright dismissal of the issue. So regularly, in fact, that there's a Bingo card covering the most common responses. Part of the notion of male privilege in fandom is that nothing is wrong with fandom and that suggestions that it might benefit from some diversity is treated as a threat.

But what is that threat, exactly?

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53. Re: Op Ed Dec 19, 2011, 04:09 Draugr
 
Morga wrote on Dec 19, 2011, 02:10:
This is a sad attempt by a Male feminist from Jezebel (they are under the same blog community banner with Kotaku. Notice how they link to each other) to put their hate filled propaganda into the gaming community.

Indeed, not only is the theory of “male privilege” dead wrong, if we were to use their arguments and definitions, we could say with statistical data that the opposite, or “female privilege,” would be a much more accurate conclusion. Truth is, feminist arguments hardly ever back up their claims of “male privilege” with anything more than superficial hyperbole or emotional tantrums. Sadly, all they can fall back on is the role of the oppressed victim in need of special treatment.

Yes, Priveledge can play out in several ways. You can be privileged in one area and not have privilege in another. These cherry-picked statistics aren't really indicative of privilege, and doesn't provide all the information, so it paints a skewed picture. for example, he could have included in his listing of stats that One in Four college women(25%) report surviving rape or attempted rape since their fourteenth birthday, compared to males at 3%, (on a side note did you know that women can be punished for being raped in some countries,) but then he wouldn't get a pretty post where everything listed is there solely to support his argument, providing an illusion of validity to his argument. The numbers don't tell the whole story, and all the numbers aren't even there.

Another example, they list unemployment rates in these stats, which shows women are more likely to be employed than men. What they left out of these statisics is that women are paid less for doing the same work men do. More women than men being employed is a result of the failing economy and stems from companies knowing they can get away with this, they are inclined to hire women instead of men or lay off male workers instead of women. If we looked at employment stats before the economy started taking a dump you would actually see that more men than women were employed then. They also leave out that men are more likely to be hired for higher-paying jobs. You'd be a fool to think that women don't have privilege as well, but you'd also be a fool to think that men also don't have privilege, and that in a patriarchal society, due to history, male privilege tends to be more readily apparent, and prevalent. Especially if you aren't part of the people who get to have that priviledge.
I think the wage gap is a great example of how male priveledge plays out. http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2003/10/07/the-wage-gap-series-so-far/

Of course, the article you quoted had a classic dismissal of feminism as calling them all emotional, Because we all know how women are, right?!

Also, I don't see what was hate filled propaganda about the article, No one is saying men are evil or anything like that, to deny that people have privilege (for example, males) and then talk about how their privilege influences something, I don't see as hateful at all. I mean, I guess you could see it as being hateful that he wants the gaming community to be more inclusive than we are as being threatening, but I certainly don't see it that way.
 
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  1. Dec 18, 13:06 Re: Op Ed Mashiki Amiketo
  2. Dec 18, 13:35  Re: Op Ed Quboid
  18. Dec 18, 15:43   Re: Op Ed Prez
  37. Dec 18, 19:59    Re: Op Ed killer_roach
  38. Dec 18, 20:01     Re: Op Ed Prez
  3. Dec 18, 13:54 Re: Op Ed Bhruic
  4. Dec 18, 14:01  Re: Op Ed Quboid
  5. Dec 18, 14:06   Re: Op Ed Quboid
  64. Dec 19, 07:50    Re: Op Ed Dev
  7. Dec 18, 14:07   Re: Op Ed Bhruic
  8. Dec 18, 14:20    Re: Op Ed Quboid
  9. Dec 18, 14:31     Re: Op Ed zirik
  11. Dec 18, 14:38     Re: Op Ed Bhruic
  6. Dec 18, 14:06 Re: Op Ed Ruffiana
  10. Dec 18, 14:37 nerds are sexist space captain
  12. Dec 18, 14:44  Re: nerds are sexist Mashiki Amiketo
  13. Dec 18, 14:49   Re: nerds are sexist zirik
  14. Dec 18, 15:08   Re: nerds are sexist space captain
  15. Dec 18, 15:20    Re: nerds are sexist zirik
  16. Dec 18, 15:39     Re: nerds are sexist space captain
  20. Dec 18, 16:14      Re: nerds are sexist zirik
  17. Dec 18, 15:42    Re: nerds are sexist Draugr
  19. Dec 18, 15:48     Re: nerds are sexist space captain
  31. Dec 18, 18:14   Re: nerds are sexist Animals for Crackers
  33. Dec 18, 18:47    Re: nerds are sexist Mashiki Amiketo
  34. Dec 18, 18:57     Re: nerds are sexist Quboid
  35. Dec 18, 19:37      Re: nerds are sexist Beamer
  21. Dec 18, 16:16 Re: Op Ed yuastnav
  22. Dec 18, 16:34  Re: Op Ed zirik
  26. Dec 18, 17:15  Re: Op Ed Prez
  32. Dec 18, 18:24   Re: Op Ed yuastnav
  36. Dec 18, 19:56    Re: Op Ed Prez
  41. Dec 18, 20:23     Re: Op Ed PropheT
  42. Dec 18, 20:33     Re: Op Ed yuastnav
  43. Dec 18, 21:15      Re: Op Ed Prez
  49. Dec 19, 02:10       Re: Op Ed yuastnav
  51. Dec 19, 02:16        Re: Op Ed Prez
  44. Dec 18, 21:42      Re: Op Ed Quboid
  45. Dec 18, 22:02       Re: Op Ed space captain
  46. Dec 19, 00:03        Re: Op Ed Jerykk
  47. Dec 19, 00:16         Re: Op Ed Jerusahat
  66. Dec 19, 08:24         Re: Op Ed netnerd85
  67. Dec 19, 08:27          Re: Op Ed Beamer
  69. Dec 19, 08:56           Re: Op Ed netnerd85
  70. Dec 19, 09:33            Re: Op Ed InBlack
  71. Dec 19, 09:54             Re: Op Ed Beamer
  72. Dec 19, 10:11              Re: Op Ed InBlack
  73. Dec 19, 10:15               Re: Op Ed InBlack
  74. Dec 19, 10:55              Re: Op Ed Bhruic
  79. Dec 19, 16:20              Re: Op Ed Prez
  80. Dec 19, 16:49               Re: Op Ed Prez
  81. Dec 19, 17:12                Re: Op Ed Draugr
  82. Dec 19, 18:17                 Re: Op Ed Prez
  83. Dec 19, 19:43                  Re: Op Ed TurdFergasun
  76. Dec 19, 12:37           Re: Op Ed Jerykk
  77. Dec 19, 15:08            Re: Op Ed FloorPie
  23. Dec 18, 16:44 Re: Op Ed jacobvandy
  24. Dec 18, 16:49  Re: Op Ed Quboid
  25. Dec 18, 17:04   Re: Op Ed TurdFergasun
  27. Dec 18, 17:19   Re: Op Ed FloorPie
  28. Dec 18, 17:32 Re: Op Ed Cutter
  29. Dec 18, 17:49  Re: Op Ed Quboid
  48. Dec 19, 01:24   Re: Op Ed Cutter
  50. Dec 19, 02:10    Re: Op Ed Morga
  52. Dec 19, 02:35     Re: Op Ed Hump
>> 53. Dec 19, 04:09     Re: Op Ed Draugr
  54. Dec 19, 05:05      Re: Op Ed Yaogun
  55. Dec 19, 05:29       Re: Op Ed Morga
  56. Dec 19, 06:02        Re: Op Ed Draugr
  57. Dec 19, 06:15       Re: Op Ed FloorPie
  58. Dec 19, 06:33        Re: Op Ed scott2508
  59. Dec 19, 06:50      Re: Op Ed Morga
  62. Dec 19, 07:15       Re: Op Ed Bhruic
  78. Dec 19, 16:13       Re: Op Ed Draugr
  60. Dec 19, 06:57     Re: Op Ed Quboid
  63. Dec 19, 07:20      Re: Op Ed Morga
  65. Dec 19, 07:54       Re: Op Ed Quboid
  30. Dec 18, 18:01 Re: Op Ed Hump
  39. Dec 18, 20:01 Re: Op Ed space captain
  40. Dec 18, 20:03 time to fucking clean up space captain
  61. Dec 19, 07:03 Re: Op Ed CommunistHamster
  68. Dec 19, 08:37 Re: Op Ed theyarecomingforyou
  75. Dec 19, 12:03 Re: Op Ed Verno


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