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27. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 17, 2011, 17:07 Ray Marden
 
I take the confused, lazy route of an agnostic.

But...most of the religious options seems really convoluted whereas the scientific process appears to be trying to postulate, test, and prove what any of this is about.

If the idea of a heaven/higher power disappears, people are on their own and need to make it work. Currently, they treat one another in fairly crappy ways and, I believe, really need to appreciate this time and world significantly more than they do. Without having religion as a personal crutch, I end up being accountable for my actions and this is cause for significant amount of introspection and/or personal awareness.

If there is a higher being, somethinig I can still admit is technically a possibility, which one is it? Either 99.9999% of the religions have it wrong, showing the insanity/naiveness of the followers, or these gods are fairly commong and do not really seem to do much. Is either groups willing to accept its stupidity or common status?

On a direct route, how does this god thing work out anyway? Why does it so oftenly have a penis? Why are the historical gods jokes, but the current era gods absolutely true? Why all the contradictions? The hatred? The common wish for a destruction of life as we know it (rapture?) Why doesn't it do more to help? If the fault is our own making, why is it not held accountable as the creater? What of all the painful, hurtful, sad, inconsistent things in a designed world? Why the lack of evidence and proof? Why the finite views centered around forced belief rather than study and gained knowledge? Why the frequent hypocrisy of the presented beliefs? Why is such a good thing the cause of so many deaths?

Too frequently, I see one just claiming it "knows" something just because and seems to completely disregard facts and proof to the contrary of any aspect. In contrast, the other side says "F*ck if I know, but we ran some tess and this is what happened - there appears to be law that says XYZ will happen, but we'll test this further if this is proven incorrect or somebody has a further expaned idea that we can prove."

I do think life is really special and I want all of it that I can have. Should it end, I do hope that there is this fantastical place I can go to where my past loved ones are, but I have absolutely no proof of this and there appears to be more evidence to the contrary. But at the end of the day, I really do not know much about anything - nor does anybody else for that matter - and I would like to look into all these things and determine the facts in place of blindly believing things, even more so in the face of contradictory evidence.
This is not far removed from the "Are we the only life in space?" question.
Typically saying I am agnostic in general, but aethiestic towards Earth religions,
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