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Dades wrote on Dec 8, 2011, 20:44:
Beamer wrote on Dec 8, 2011, 18:08:
Yes, the Supreme Court allowed it in the AT&T case. Was that a click-through?
And since the Supreme Court case several State courts have still allowed class action lawsuits to be filed and continued.
Are you some corporate stoogie ignoring the point on purpose? Microsoft inserting it into their agreement is a clear attempt to avoid class action suits. Some states refusing to recognize it doesn't mean it's ok for them to do this.
We're having a hard time seeing Microsoft as some innocent party in this, you're going to need to draw a line for us.
Yes, of COURSE that is why Microsoft is doing it. Derr! At this point it's probably malpractice for an attorney to NOT put it in a contract.
Wait, that's important, so I'll let it sink in here - if an attorney does NOT put this in a contract he can likely be sued for malpractice. Do you know what that means?
THIS WILL BE IN EVERY SINGLE CONTRACT YOU SIGN WITH A CORPORATION IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.
EVERY.
SINGLE.
ONE.
And states are finding ways around this, because it's unconscionable to hold people to this in 99% of contracts.
Is this something to be happy about? Of course not.
Is this something to act like Microsoft is evil for? No. They're not good, but they're not evil. Every single company will do this because if they don't and they get drawn into a class action lawsuit they will sue their attorneys, so their attorneys will make sure this clause is in everything.
Is this something that will last? No fucking way. The Court really fucked this up. It will be a short bump in our legal history before it's completely decimated and torn apart. |
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Dec 8, 12:09 |
Re: You can't opt out of the "no class-action" Xbox 360 TOS update after all |
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Dec 8, 12:36 |
Re: You can't opt out of the |
Verno |
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Dec 8, 12:16 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
winnetou |
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Dec 9, 21:13 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Ant |
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Dec 8, 12:44 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
avianflu |
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Dec 8, 12:49 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Verno |
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Dec 8, 13:55 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
theyarecomingforyou |
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Dec 8, 14:27 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Beamer |
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Dec 8, 14:32 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
LittleMe |
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Dec 8, 14:48 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
theyarecomingforyou |
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Dec 8, 14:48 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
mch |
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Dec 8, 15:11 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Zarkonis |
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Dec 8, 15:18 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Beamer |
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Dec 8, 15:35 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
theyarecomingforyou |
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Dec 8, 16:55 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Dades |
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Dec 8, 17:00 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Beamer |
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Dec 8, 17:33 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Dades |
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Dec 8, 18:08 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Beamer |
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Dec 8, 20:44 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Dades |
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Dec 9, 10:36 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
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Dec 9, 11:17 |
Re: Morning Consolidation |
Dades |
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Dec 8, 19:32 |
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