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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim New LAA Workaround |
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MonkeySpank wrote on Nov 22, 2011, 21:01: This is a simple VStudio linker command-line parameter linker fix in "/LARGEADDRESSAWARE". I wish Bethesda and other companies started actually compiling the code in 64-bit. They'd benefit from the performance and the addressing limits they are missing out on today. I understand they have legacy code, but this is not an enormous effort. Time to stop kicking the can down the road guys. It's not free. It takes work to maintain a separate architecture, it adds extra risk, and it adds a considerable amount of extra work to QA.
Most people aren't going to care if the game can address more memory if it's console (and 32-bit)-targeted and so not even using much memory to begin with.
Performance benefit isn't simple. If there's a lot of pointers flying around, they're going to occupy twice as much memory, and might knock things out of the cache. If there's anywhere in the engine (and there may not be without restructuring it) that can be recoded to use x64's extra features, it'll have to be maintained twice (for x86 and x64), which introduces risk and work; that type of code is likely going to be deep optimized stuff too, which makes that even more of a pain. I'm guessing the increased number of registers is going to be the main win, and one that you can get without any extra effort thanks to the compiler, but is it a big enough one on its own?
Does this move to 64-bit make sense from a business perspective at all? It's not like Skyrim is being sold on its technical brilliance anyways. |
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