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On Take On Helicopters DRM; Demo Plans

A post on the Bohemia Interactive Forums asks for help with a problem causing a watery image degradation in Take On Helicopters, Bohemia's new flight simulator. As it turns out this can be the result of using a pirated edition of the game, as Bohemia explains this comes from their "unique anti-piracy countermeasures," also noting a demo for the game is in the works. Here's word:

Bohemia Interactive deploys various antipiracy countermeasures in its titles and Take On Helicopters is no exception, some users have reported morphed/watery image degradation (see http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=126991 ). The original version of Take On Helicopters does not suffer from this degradation of visual quality. Piracy is a big problem for Bohemia Interactive, as an independent PC developer, and we're trying to focus our support as much as possible towards users of legitimate copies. Counterfeit copies of our games may degrade and, moral aspects aside, we certainly recommend only playing the original version. We have a free public demo version of Take On Helicopters in the development pipeline for those that prefer to test it before buying.

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21. Re: On Take On Helicopters DRM; Demo Plans Nov 9, 2011, 15:29 Spaced
 
As I said in my post in different words, I don't agree with your conclusion that it will only affect pirates. Maybe it is designed to do that but that doesn't mean these types of systems don't also affect legitimate users as there are several examples (FADE, Titan Quest, etc) of. The only time I've seen it pulled it off successfully was on the consoles with Spyro and that's because they could make many assumptions about the hardware platform and operating system they were working with. I think in the end the resources are better spent creating more value in the product to ensure sales or through alternative functionality like online play.

Perhaps we're talking past each other a bit then. I'm commenting on this system specifically without comparing it to past efforts. On its own, this system seems pretty unique and effective. Plus, it probably takes far fewer resources to put something like this together than it does spending the time and extreme expense of implementing one of the restrictive third party/dedicated DRM systems used traditionally. There isn't even a need for a validation server, disc check, key database system, etc, etc, for a system like this. It's simple, easy to design, user friendly, and effective. All big pluses for the developer and the legal user in my opinion.

The source of the problem is just regular people seeking out content, people pirate things for many different reasons. Not every act of piracy is necessarily depriving a developer of something, many users on this very forum pirated things in school when they didn't have disposable income and now buy everything that it's a not concern.

Throwing everyone in jail who pirated anything is just silly. In that scenario you'd probably be serving time too for crimes committed in high school like getting mp3s and whatnot.

Uh, just because you are in school does not give you the right to steal. And I didn't necessarily mean to throw every pirate in jail. No, there needs to be a selective process and developers should pool their resources together in such a targeted effort (plenty of ways to do this with prosecution options). In fact, I would suggest targeting the original hackers themselves first would be the best approach. Put the people responsible for cracking the software and distributing it in jail first, gauge the result, then determine if further legal efforts are needed among pirate consumers. Again, targeting the source first.

If Quake had failed because of some apparent bug, I'd have gone back to Duke Nukem 3D.

Who takes recommendations from a pirate? All of us. Someone recommends a game, do you demand to see a receipt? How many of the comments and recommendations for on this fair site come from people who have a legal copy? All? I very, very much doubt it. Most, I hope, but not all. If someone reports that "Medal of Duty: Modern Battlefields 4" is a buggy piece of crap, do you stop to think that maybe it's a FADE type DRM and they have a pirate copy?

Why would you allow others to determine your opinion for you? And you said it yourself, many comments are made by people not using the game legally. These days the way things are, you should start from the position that you don't know who is posting at all and it is likely they are using an illegal copy of the software, have a crappy system they're lying about, and/or don't know how to properly operate their computer. Then work in from there as more information is provided to validate the claim.

Risk and cost is certainly a factor and if you don't want to take the risk or can't afford a game, don't buy the game! That's a perfectly legitimate (and -legal-) decision to make. But don't go stealing the product and then complain when your hacked apart malware infested illegal copy doesn't work right. And anyone who -expects- an illegal copy of any software program to work right is a fool and so is anyone who listens to them -assuming- they are using a legal build (and have a capable system they know how to use). Many reported game bugs are a result of pirating and sometimes developers lose weeks or months of time trying to find and fix problems that never existed in their software! The problems were -introduced- by the idiot hackers who ignorantly deleted a bunch of code. Then the developer gets blamed and their reputation harmed for the result of -piracy-, not their own legitimate work. And we're supposed to sit here and welcome the pirates, their theft, their spreading viruses and malware, the damage they do to developers, and the time wasted that developers could have spent on making their games better? No way! I say find 'em, jail 'em, and get them off our platform. Our computers will be safer, developers will earn more, and our games will be better.
 
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