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Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed

Responding to questions about release/support plans for Friday's release of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Bethesda Community Manager made a very short post to the NeoGAF forums about plans to patch the RPG sequel: "Yep. All platforms going to 1.1 by 11/11/11" (thanks Acleacius). Also, GameSpy has details on a second bonus race in the game if you want to see. Thanks GameFront via VG247. We're trying to help people avoid spoilers, so please avoid spilling any beans in our forums.

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72. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 11, 2011, 08:52 xXBatmanXx
 
avianflu wrote on Nov 8, 2011, 07:35:
I think there's a more subtle version:

Wait for the GOTY version with all of the DLC provided and play the crack of the main game in the meantime. I dont do that but boy I have been tempted with a few games. The only thing that stopped me was that games are discounting so quickly after release there's little point in cracking. Deus EX 2 is a good example: it was 34.99 at Amazon during release week.

Skyrim concerns me though: I think we'll see a lots of $15 DLC that should have been in the main game in the first place. Mark my words.

For the amount of stuff that is in the game already, paying full price for over 100 hours of gaming (main and side quests) is a hell of a deal. I am DLC (if any) will be substantial in regards to the content it has.
 
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71. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 14:16 StingingVelvet
 
Jerykk wrote on Nov 8, 2011, 04:37:
That seems like a problem with people rather than the idea of trying games for free. All ideas can be corrupted and/or exploited by things like greed but that doesn't really affect the merits of those ideas. That's like banning free speech because there are people who say stupid things. Or banning the internet because there are people who use it for child porn. Or banning cars because there are people who can't drive responsibly.

And people try to ban language all the time, or shun those whose language does not fit their ideals. The ability to drive a car is controlled pretty heavily through a license, testing and insurance requirements. Similarly instead of trusting the honor system with a mass-market product, publishers are going to want to force purchasing.

I'm not really saying I agree with it, I'm just saying that's why they don't simply accept what you do and thank you when you purchase. Well, that and they want you to buy the crappy games too.
 
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70. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 11:18 wonkawonka
 
FYI I just got Skyrim in Paris, France. Since it's for the PC it won't activate until the 11th, but one could have bought the xbox or ps3 version and started playing right away.  
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69. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 07:43 Eldaron Imotholin
 
If people are, as he says, selfish, ignorant and flawed.. then why do they buy games in the first place? So, concluding that that statement is false, he might wants to say pirates are selfish, ignorant and flawed. This is also false, looking at people like Jerykk and me -- for I too pirate games and buy them later if I enjoy them.

It's all about that sense of honor and/or a will to support the industry when someone buys a game, whether its pirated first or not. To state that honorless people with a lack of a moral compass -- if you will -- would buy a game if they couldn't pirate it... is ludicrous thinking.

Also.. I'm sure thousands and thousands of people bought Deus Ex: HR due to the leaked version.

 
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68. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 07:35 avianflu
 
I think there's a more subtle version:

Wait for the GOTY version with all of the DLC provided and play the crack of the main game in the meantime. I dont do that but boy I have been tempted with a few games. The only thing that stopped me was that games are discounting so quickly after release there's little point in cracking. Deus EX 2 is a good example: it was 34.99 at Amazon during release week.

Skyrim concerns me though: I think we'll see a lots of $15 DLC that should have been in the main game in the first place. Mark my words.
 
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67. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 05:17 yonder
 
StingingVelvet wrote on Nov 8, 2011, 03:32:
Jerykk wrote on Nov 8, 2011, 00:40:
Is that a bad thing? There's nothing preventing you from buying a game after you've pirated it. If you pirate a game, enjoy it and believe it is worth $60, then go buy it for $60. If you think it's worth $30, then go buy it for $30. I pirated Dead Island and enjoyed it enough to pay $35 for it. It's another open-world action game that will hold my attention for about 20 hours before I lose interest and stop playing.

And as you well know the problem with this philosophy is that most people would find a reason not to pay, or not to pay full price. "Oh no the menus are shitty, what a crappy port, I'm not paying them despite playing it for 50 hours."

The honor system doesn't work because humans are selfish, ignorant and flawed.

The people who will use the menu as an excuse not to pay full price for a game are not going to pay full price for a game no matter what. Stop punshing legit consumers for those a-holes. There are PLENTY of people, like the Dead Island guy below, who basically pirate as insurance. Wasting sixty bucks is a BIG DEAL to most people. Two crappy games means you've wasted over 100 bucks already.

How often does that have to happen until it becomes okay to pirate-demo? I'll ask you to pay 60 dollars for a copy of Masters Of Orion 3 and then let me know how that tastes.
 
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66. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 04:37 Jerykk
 
The honor system doesn't work because humans are selfish, ignorant and flawed.

That seems like a problem with people rather than the idea of trying games for free. All ideas can be corrupted and/or exploited by things like greed but that doesn't really affect the merits of those ideas. That's like banning free speech because there are people who say stupid things. Or banning the internet because there are people who use it for child porn. Or banning cars because there are people who can't drive responsibly.
 
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65. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 03:32 StingingVelvet
 
Jerykk wrote on Nov 8, 2011, 00:40:
Is that a bad thing? There's nothing preventing you from buying a game after you've pirated it. If you pirate a game, enjoy it and believe it is worth $60, then go buy it for $60. If you think it's worth $30, then go buy it for $30. I pirated Dead Island and enjoyed it enough to pay $35 for it. It's another open-world action game that will hold my attention for about 20 hours before I lose interest and stop playing.

And as you well know the problem with this philosophy is that most people would find a reason not to pay, or not to pay full price. "Oh no the menus are shitty, what a crappy port, I'm not paying them despite playing it for 50 hours."

The honor system doesn't work because humans are selfish, ignorant and flawed.
 
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64. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 03:30 StingingVelvet
 
Surf wrote on Nov 8, 2011, 00:01:
If you think the game is worth $60, go for it. I was intrigued, didn't notice a demo, had access. 90% of the people on here with the means and know how would do it to, Napster, as well as many other technologies over the year, has proven this.

I got Rage as well, played it 30 minutes, erased it. Didn't see a demo for that either. Sure, I don't have to buy it, I don't have to play it, I don't have to grab it, but I have the abilities to do so, and that is my choice.

Yours is to not, end of discussion.

All discussions about the morality of doing this aside one of the main things that bug me about people like you is that you assume everyone is doing it. All my life I have had to hear about how "everyone is pirating music, movies and games" and how when I say I don't I must be lying. That's just fucking stupid. Just because you do a thing and the forum people you associate with do a thing does not mean EVERYONE does a thing. And even if everyone did do it, that's not justification for jack shit. Majority approval has never defined morality, just look at slavery.

So stop with the BS justifications and abstractions and just argue your actual point.
 
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63. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 00:40 Jerykk
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 22:47:
Surf wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 22:18:
Dead Island:

Try the game yourself. The melee was friggin sweet if you asked me. Over the top like Evil Dead 2, but you could kill enemies with one shot sometimes, if aimed at the head. You can also throw your weapons too.

I liked the game, but waiting for the price to get say $25 before purchase, and patched, gonna play coop with a buddy or 3.

Translation: "pirate it like I did!"

Is that a bad thing? There's nothing preventing you from buying a game after you've pirated it. If you pirate a game, enjoy it and believe it is worth $60, then go buy it for $60. If you think it's worth $30, then go buy it for $30. I pirated Dead Island and enjoyed it enough to pay $35 for it. It's another open-world action game that will hold my attention for about 20 hours before I lose interest and stop playing.
 
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62. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 8, 2011, 00:01 Surf
 
If you think the game is worth $60, go for it. I was intrigued, didn't notice a demo, had access. 90% of the people on here with the means and know how would do it to, Napster, as well as many other technologies over the year, has proven this.

I got Rage as well, played it 30 minutes, erased it. Didn't see a demo for that either. Sure, I don't have to buy it, I don't have to play it, I don't have to grab it, but I have the abilities to do so, and that is my choice.

Yours is to not, end of discussion.
 
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61. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 22:47 Beamer
 
Surf wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 22:18:
Dead Island:

Try the game yourself. The melee was friggin sweet if you asked me. Over the top like Evil Dead 2, but you could kill enemies with one shot sometimes, if aimed at the head. You can also throw your weapons too.

I liked the game, but waiting for the price to get say $25 before purchase, and patched, gonna play coop with a buddy or 3.

Translation: "pirate it like I did!"
 
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60. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 22:18 Surf
 
Dead Island:

Try the game yourself. The melee was friggin sweet if you asked me. Over the top like Evil Dead 2, but you could kill enemies with one shot sometimes, if aimed at the head. You can also throw your weapons too.

I liked the game, but waiting for the price to get say $25 before purchase, and patched, gonna play coop with a buddy or 3.

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59. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 21:33 MrGrosser
 
Who needs a dismemberment mod Skyrim.

***spoiler***
You can actually take a talent that can decapitate people

It is quite fun.
 
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58. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 19:30 Acleacius
 
Mordecai Walfish wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 19:09:
I have to agree here that Dead Island has the best melee combat i've seen in a first person title. I dont expect this kind of combat from new elder scrolls titles because of everything else they achieve, that being said though, each new elder scrolls game does move in the right direction with the combat system.

I really just hope the auto-leveled world never sees the light of day again in an elder scrolls game.
Dead Island is great, think I played about 6 hours over the weekend. Iirc, Arcane's Dark Messiah has better melee combat but it's 5 years old. I'm betting Dishonored will be even better.

They defiantly will mod the melee combat in Skyrim, did you see Deadly Reflex in Oblivion? Looks like Skyrim took many ideas from it, one of the, if not the most popular melee mod.
 
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57. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 19:17 wasp
 
there is a dismemberment mod for Oblivion, i'm sure there will be one for skyrim eventually.  
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56. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 19:14 Acleacius
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 18:52:
Man, this is brutal - need to play!!!!!!! Got mw3 to keep me busy until next week.

Then SR3 right there also! DAAAAAAMN!
I feel the pain. Couldn't stop laughing when I found that South Park video about Skyrim and thinking about all of us here on the board....
Waiting for christmas times a thousand!
I'm really glad you guys told me about SR3, but now afraid it will be at least december before I rear my head from Skyrim. Honestly hope these games keep me from thinking about SWtOR mmog. The longer I can go without supporting ea the happier I'll be in the long run.

Edit: Fixed a contraction.

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The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.That is easy.All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.It works the same way in any country.
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55. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 19:09 Mordecai Walfish
 
I have to agree here that Dead Island has the best melee combat i've seen in a first person title. I dont expect this kind of combat from new elder scrolls titles because of everything else they achieve, that being said though, each new elder scrolls game does move in the right direction with the combat system.

I really just hope the auto-leveled world never sees the light of day again in an elder scrolls game.
 
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54. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 18:52 xXBatmanXx
 
Man, this is brutal - need to play!!!!!!! Got mw3 to keep me busy until next week.

Then SR3 right there also! DAAAAAAMN!
 
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53. Re: Skyrim Day One Patch Plans; Another Bonus Race Revealed Nov 7, 2011, 18:41 PropheT
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 17:14:
Didn't the awkward melee combat get absolutely bashed in all the reviews of that game?
Did it get fixed, or were the reviews wrong? Because most of them seemed to say melee sucked and controlled like guns, in that if you weren't pointing perfectly your baseball bat would oddly whiff.

If that's what reviews said, they were wrong. The melee was basically an improved version of what TES games have been doing for years, with damage modeling and reactive effects upon impact.

It's the best implementation of FPS melee combat I've ever seen in a game, anyway.
 
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