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Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2

The Digital Combat Simulator Website now offers digital distribution of the English edition of DCS: Black Shark 2, their combat flight simulation sequel, also offering an upgrade for owners of the first DCS: Black Shark for a 50% discount. Here's word on the game, which they say requires an internet connection for multiplayer play (including over a LAN):

“DCS: Black Shark 2” is a simulation of the Russian Ka-50 attack helicopter and the next entry in the Digital Combat Simulator combat series. "DCS: Black Shark 2" is a greatly improved version of the original "DCS: Black Shark" that brings many new features.

The Ka-50 "Black Shark" is a unique and deadly single-seat, Russian attack helicopter that has seen combat in the Northern Caucasus. It combines a high performance dual rotor system with a deadly weapons payload of guided missiles, rockets, bombs, and a 30mm cannon. The Ka-50 is also unique in that it has an ejection seat.

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18. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 5, 2011, 04:25 zirik
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Nov 3, 2011, 18:23:
link to verify that info please.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=67747

Q: Does DCS: A-10C use copy protection?
A: Yes, it uses the new user-friendly ProActive AAA Technology.
You will no longer have a fixed number of activations, but in an effort to prevent piracy the system does limit the number of activations per month. Your DCS A-10C serial number is initially set to 8 activations and when they all are spent, 1 activation is added automatically once per 31 days (effectively "refilling" your serial number).
ProActive AAA Technology does not install any drivers on your PC. It works as an integrated part of the DCS files but has no special privileges in your system.

that sounds reasonable to me. thanks for the info guys!

now i gotta dig up the old joystick and throttle. wish i had the cash to buy those $500 controllers from thrustmaster or saitek.
 
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17. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 18:23 Scottish Martial Arts
 
link to verify that info please.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=67747

Q: Does DCS: A-10C use copy protection?
A: Yes, it uses the new user-friendly ProActive AAA Technology.
You will no longer have a fixed number of activations, but in an effort to prevent piracy the system does limit the number of activations per month. Your DCS A-10C serial number is initially set to 8 activations and when they all are spent, 1 activation is added automatically once per 31 days (effectively "refilling" your serial number).
ProActive AAA Technology does not install any drivers on your PC. It works as an integrated part of the DCS files but has no special privileges in your system.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend DRM. Rather, I think the DCS series is so good that the rather unobtrusive DRM is worth putting up with, and that Eagle Dynamics is a company which deserves support. And again if the DRM is that much of an issue, nothing is stopping you from buying a legit copy to support further development, while installing the pirated version to circumvent the DRM.
 
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16. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 18:22 vermin
 
zirik wrote on Nov 3, 2011, 17:47:
link to verify that info please. google comes up empty.
why google, it's right there on eagle dynamics' forum http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=67025
 
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15. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 17:53 zirik
 
Bard wrote on Nov 3, 2011, 14:56:
What if starforce shuts down, or becomes uncontactable? Can we rely on a historically dodgy bunch of dickheads to give us an unlock forever patch to their DRM?

if french publishers like ubisoft cannot be relied upon to remove DRM when they end support for a game, you think russian devs will do better?

its a shame that games like DCS have to be paired with a pain in the ass DRM. but i understand their home market is rife with piracy so there really isnt much the developers can do.
 
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14. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 17:47 zirik
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Nov 3, 2011, 15:28:
The activations regenerate, dude.

link to verify that info please. google comes up empty. the only info i found was regarding multiple installs on the same OS on the same pc. reinstalling an OS will make you give up an activation. nothing about regenerating activation. i want to buy DCS 2 and A-10 but bad experience from starforce made me boycott every game that uses it.
 
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13. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 15:28 Scottish Martial Arts
 
The activations regenerate, dude. The hate against the old Starforce is well deserved, don't get me wrong, but a one time activation is hardly draconian. And if it pisses you off that much buy a license but just install the pirated version. Eagle Dynamics and the Fighter Collection self-publish all their products, so the money goes straight to them, and the DCS series is of such high quality and so unique in today's world of dumbed down console shit that they deserve the support.

Anyone who has even a passing interest in military aviation is fucking themselves if they pass up on DCS simply because of the DRM.
 
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12. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 14:56 Bard
 
Razorclaw wrote on Nov 3, 2011, 11:54:
newer starforce is fine. it's just a one time online verification thing. steam drm is a lot worse.

Until you run out of activations.

It IS limited activations - no matter that you can backup your activation. What if your drive crashes and no chance of deactivatng? YEP - one less activation...

What if starforce shuts down, or becomes uncontactable? Can we rely on a historically dodgy bunch of dickheads to give us an unlock forever patch to their DRM?

PASS.
 
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11. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 12:59 KilrathiAce
 
Starforce blows, I bought Black Shark 1 on steam because it had it removed, when will 2 be available on steam? I will only buy it there.  
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10. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 11:54 vermin
 
newer starforce is fine. it's just a one time online verification thing. steam drm is a lot worse.  
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9. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 07:27 TheVocalMinority
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Nov 3, 2011, 00:48:
Eagle Dynamics is a developer that deserves any bit of cash that comes its way

No. No they don't...

Q: What copy protection system does the DCS series use??
A: Currently it uses the online activation method of StarForce.
 
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8. Re: removed Nov 3, 2011, 06:46 Pannad
 
Does this still come with StarForce DRM? No way I am using that on my machines again.
I looked at the original Black Shark and A10 Warthog on Steam, but even the Steam version has StarForce.
 
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7. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 03:45 Scottish Martial Arts
 
you still need the original

If you want the upgrade version. The standalone version is $40 and doesn't require that you own Black Shark 1.
 
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6. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 03:03 eRe4s3r
 
As the comment after me said, they ask 40$ for the Version 2 - which means people who bought Blackshark before.. get totally ripped off. Still some might say its just 10$.. but its about principle here

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5. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 02:30 Wildone
 
you still need the original  
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4. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 01:19 Suckage
 
Ha... I almost bought Black Shark a couple of days ago. Glad I didn't!  
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3. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 3, 2011, 00:48 Scottish Martial Arts
 
It's essentially a port of Black Shark into the A-10C engine, plus a new campaign and new features. I'd prefer this sort of thing to a patch obviously, but on the other hand Eagle Dynamics is a developer that deserves any bit of cash that comes its way. No one else has the balls to make such a dense and feature rich simulator for such a niche crowd.

Honestly, the rest of gaming feels so... immature after playing a DCS title.
 
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2. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 2, 2011, 23:44 Bard
 
huh? essentially a patch to an existing game - featuring the same helicopter? for half the price of a new game?

I hope there's a lot of new features, rather than just fixes to old issues to make the cost justified.

 
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1. Re: Ships Ahoy - DCS: Black Shark 2 Nov 2, 2011, 22:35 mameyjamee
 
too too too many cool sims coming of age; too many cool FPS dealies these days... Daaaaammmmmmmmnit!

never enough time

That said, I'm sure not gonna miss this wholesome chunky goodness.

_W00T_ DCS!!!
 
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