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Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology

GayGamer has more follow-up on yesterday's news of outcry over anti-gay slurs during the closing performance at BlizzCon 2011. They recieved an apology from Mike Morhaime, the president of Blizzard who is also apparently a member of Level 90 Elite Tauren Chieftain, the band that performed at the closing. Here's word:

Dear members of the Blizzard community,

I have read your feedback and comments about this year's BlizzCon, and I have also read the feedback to the apology from Level 90 Elite Tauren Chieftain. I'd like to respond to some of your feedback here.

As president of Blizzard, I take full responsibility for everything that occurs at BlizzCon.

It was shortsighted and insensitive to use the video at all, even in censored form. The language used in the original version, including the slurs and use of sexual orientation as an insult, is not acceptable, period. We realize now that having even an edited version at the show was counter to the standards we try to maintain in our forums and in our games. Doing so was an error in judgment, and we regret it.

The bottom line is we deeply apologize for our mistakes and for hurting or offending anyone. We want you to have fun at our events, and we want everyone to feel welcome. We're proud to be part of a huge and diverse community, and I am proud that so many aspects of the community are represented within Blizzard itself.

As a leader of Blizzard, and a member of the band, I truly hope you will accept my humblest apology.

- Mike Morhaime President, Blizzard Entertainment

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93. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 12:49 Prez
 
It's hard to support an argument that boils down to "I'm complaining that you shouldn't be complaining".

Except that this is not the argument being used. If nothing came of the hypersensitive outrage, I wouldn't care, except to laugh at how thin everyone's skin has gotten. The habitually offended of society, however, don't just complain - they harass, they browbeat, and demonize people incessantly until they force societal norms to fit their demented utopian vision where nobody can say anything that might offend anyone. Go against that societal norm, or fail to show the proper outrage at its violation, and your name will be slogged through the mud, you will lose your job, your career will be destroyed... all this and more has been the result time and time again of the whiney crusade of the faux noble sissies who make a habit of being outraged by everything. It has made freedom of speech in this country a farce, and they are not even close to being done.
 
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92. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 12:40 Yaogun
 
It's interesting that so many people in this thread will see racist comments as a bad idea, but don't extend the same attitude toward homophobic comments. Many of the posters here just can't fathom that "gay" and "fag" are as awful as racial slurs in the minds of many, many people. The fact that events like this get so much attention and upset so many people is mystifying to them, yet if we were talking about a company showing a video with racist ranting, there would be far less outrage at the outrage.

I take this as evidence that being homophobic is becoming as socially uncool as being a racist. Society is certainly changing in that direction: as I've lived I've watched support for gay marriage increase steadily over the past couple decades to where it is now with over 50% of the population supporting it. It's pretty clear where history is going, but it's an ugly ride. It's not an easy thing for privileged people to watch another group getting respect and rights: as I mentioned before they see it as a zero-sum game. And eventually they'll look as silly ranting about this as someone in the '60s did ranting about "reverse discrimination" because black people could now actually compete with them for jobs.

My advice? Don't get attached to the usernames y'all are posting with. My stupid posts from 15 years ago are still out there on the internet and searchable if you know my old usernames. They're like a tell tale heart, always reminding me of the entitled little dick I used to be.
 
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90. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 09:25 Doombringer
 
Showing the Corpsegrinder video was a dick move. Plain and simple. Raging man-child slinging profanity and cross-faction hatred... yeah, great choice for a convention where you want to bring fans together and have them enjoy their favorite franchises.

I don't need to be a CEO of Blizzard to tell that it would be a poor choice for ANY part of the convention, including the ending concert.
 
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89. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 09:20 Cutter
 
Sempai wrote on Oct 29, 2011, 06:35:
Jesus, the intolerance and self righteousness you wreak of must have been honed from years of bong resin and hops in your basement Cutter.
It's quite apparent you've never made a bad judgement call in your life, you must be a real peach at family get together's.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If I'm the pot, you're most definitely the kettle. Everything I wrote just sailed right over your head, didn't it? Do you even understand what is going on here? Or is the whole world just all colours and shapes and the occasional noise in yer head? And you must be a real peach at your neo-nazi/klan hatemonger rallies.
 
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88. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 07:56 Bhruic
 
People aren't suggesting they shouldn't be ALLOWED to complain. People are just suggesting they SHOULDN'T complain. It's nothing to do with homosexuality. People need to stop getting worked up about irrelevant non-events like this. If I was Blizzard I would have put another joke video out, one that couldn't be misinterpreted, and laugh the whole thing off. Not back down to these over-sensitive cretins.

Right, but I think his point was that what you are doing right now is exactly what you are claiming they shouldn't be doing. You shouldn't be complaining about this. You shouldn't be getting worked up about a non-event like this. You are, to use your words, being an over-sensitive cretin.

It's hard to support an argument that boils down to "I'm complaining that you shouldn't be complaining".
 
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87. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 06:48 theyarecomingforyou
 
Asmo wrote on Oct 29, 2011, 04:58:
Lastly, don't the gays have the same freedom to complain and be offended as a person has to say something offensive? The wankers around here proclaiming that they need to STFU, stop being sissys, stop 'whining' or 'crying' etc don't seem concerned in the slightest that they themselves are advocating for a lessening of freedom of speech. You may disagree with what they are saying but you'll defend their right to say it? Or only if they aren't fags?
I liken it to 'The Boy That Cried Wolf', in that if you constantly claim offence over every little comment it will diminish your standing when there is something to actually be offended about. People of course have the right to complain but it's counter-productive, just like 'affirmative action' or organisations like the 'Gay Police Association'. I mean, it's ridiculous to strive for equality by creating a group to represent a minority / inequality - whether it be based on race, religion or gender.

People aren't suggesting they shouldn't be ALLOWED to complain. People are just suggesting they SHOULDN'T complain. It's nothing to do with homosexuality. People need to stop getting worked up about irrelevant non-events like this. If I was Blizzard I would have put another joke video out, one that couldn't be misinterpreted, and laugh the whole thing off. Not back down to these over-sensitive cretins.
 
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86. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 06:35 Sempai
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 15:57:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 14:10:
Yaogun wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 14:02:
For those of you, like Eldaron, who complain that gay people need thicker skin or "more balls" to deal with slurs, I wonder how much of your thick skin isn't so much thick as untested.
Ah right. I'm half-japanese, my father is a jap, my mother is german. I'm jewish, I've lived through japanese racism first hand. I've seen rabid antisemitism first hand, and had the crap spewed at my home, work, and at me by bigots of every stripe, race, ethnicity and sex. I've seen bigotry, hate, racism and all the rest. They need to grow a thicker skin, and I've traveled all over this freaking rock. Japanese racism is it's own special brand of hate for those that aren't pure. Though none get it as badly as Brazilian-Japanese.

Your sexual orientation is much easier to hide, than your skin colour and ethnicity. They need to grow a thicker skin.

Hatred is something learned and it can be stopped. So why should anyone be forced to acclimate to hatred?

Sempai wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 14:56:
What are you smoking Cutter? Last I looked we live on planet earth, and last I looked people make mistakes. I agree It boggles the mind to think they thought this meathead spewing his idiocy was funny in the least, but the guy said he was sincerely sorry and yet you're reading into his apology like some conspiracy theorist.

Jesus, people say their sorry and it's still not good enough these days.

I'm smoking a pipe. Question is, what are you ingesting? Yes, people make mistakes, but a guy who is president of a company this size that garners the sort of attention it does needs to be a lot more aware of these sorts of issues, and how he comports himself publically, than Dave from shipping, right?! Suppose they had been making a similar sort of derogatory comments about blacks, or jews, or the Chinese. No, no one be the least bit upset about that, right? Sorry is nice but it still doesn't change the fact it happened. Plenty of people in prison are sorry, but it still doesn't change why they're there. His apology doesn't strike me as sincere in the least.


Jesus, the intolerance and self righteousness you wreak of must have been honed from years of bong resin and hops in your basement Cutter.
It's quite apparent you've never made a bad judgement call in your life, you must be a real peach at family get together's.
 
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85. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 04:58 Asmo
 
Eldaron Imotholin wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 13:33:

And then there's a high probability that when Person A again makes the "mistake" of saying something "offensive", they lose their job or there's another nasty consequence.

Your model is flawed.

Incorrect. The right to personal free speech is not impinged, the right to speak as they wish while on the company dollar is.

The company can and should hold it's employees to a higher standard because the person is representing the company/product when they speak. If the person finds those standards onerous, they can always go get another job.

Plus free speech is not only a right, it's a responsibility. Yes, you can go around offending everyone you like, but don't be surprised if it comes back to bite you in the ass.

Lastly, don't the gays have the same freedom to complain and be offended as a person has to say something offensive? The wankers around here proclaiming that they need to STFU, stop being sissys, stop 'whining' or 'crying' etc don't seem concerned in the slightest that they themselves are advocating for a lessening of freedom of speech. You may disagree with what they are saying but you'll defend their right to say it? Or only if they aren't fags?
 
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84. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 01:18 RollinThundr
 
Prez wrote on Oct 29, 2011, 01:08:
Hammer wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 21:00:
Question to all those saying that gays need to get a thicker skin, etc...

What was your position on the whole Michael Richards (Kramer) racist tirade? That blacks needed to get a thicker skin?

As an aside, I have seen many, many black comics make the exact same comments referencing white people and they get applause. If they are funny and/or true, I laugh and applaud right along with everyone else.

Well you see Prez that's the whole double standard thing. It's perfectly acceptable for blacks, because years and years ago there was slavery. So it makes it ok. Granted when the black leaders, folks like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson play the race card at the drop of a hat as often as they can, you can easily see where it stems from.
 
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83. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 29, 2011, 01:08 Prez
 
Hammer wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 21:00:
Question to all those saying that gays need to get a thicker skin, etc...

What was your position on the whole Michael Richards (Kramer) racist tirade? That blacks needed to get a thicker skin?

If they were offended or upset, I'd say yes, actually. Racist angry tirade or not, (I may be thinking about a different incident, but wasn't he doing it as part of a comedy routine?) they are just words by someone who has never met you and knows nothing about you. Words only have the power you give them. Laugh at them or ignore them; either way they can do nothing to you, and his opinion should mean nothing to you as well.

As an aside, I have seen many, many black comics make the exact same comments referencing white people and they get applause. If they are funny and/or true, I laugh and applaud right along with everyone else.
 
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82. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 23:56 Hump
 
Bhruic wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 23:42:
So...just throw free speech right out the window then?

Having the right to do something doesn't mean you should do something.

I commend you for at least not pulling out that old tired standby "One doesn't have the right to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater".

Having said that, yes, you are right. The problem is that we are becoming a nation of oversensitive babies who feel they have a right NOT to be insulted. That is something the constitution does NOT allow for, for good reason. One only needs to look at the Muslim response to the cartoon of Muhommaed to understand why such protections are in place.

In the end, Blizzard and GLAAD aren't govt. supported organizations so they have every right to do what they're doing. Its just troubling that we've gotten to the point where one can't even express humor or opinion without the threat of losing ones livelihood.
 
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81. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 23:42 Bhruic
 
So...just throw free speech right out the window then?

Having the right to do something doesn't mean you should do something.
 
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80. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 23:02 theyarecomingforyou
 
Yaogun wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 22:27:
Ah, well, I think we just have an irreconcilable difference of opinion. Yes it would have been career suicide to not apologize, but I put the blame squarely on Morgan. He was the idiot who said what he did. Whereas it seems like you put the blame on everyone but Morgan for daring to inflict some social consequence.
But what's the point of free speech if you can never exercise it? Especially for a comedian. We've had similar things in the UK but with the opposite result. For instance, Frankie Boyle insulted the disabled kid of glamour model Jordan in the UK and Channel 4 actually defended his comments; his comments also included him using the words 'nigger' and 'Paki'. The guy is an edgy comedian and obviously his comments will offend some people but that's part of what makes him so exceptional as a comic.

I really think people need to step back and stop taking offence to everything. Now if something was obviously intended to be racist that's one thing and there are laws to deal with it. But if it's a comedian trying to be a bit edgy or it's satirical then I think that should be left alone. Unfortunately yet again we see money taking precedence over integrity and creativity, as NBC obviously forced Morgan to make amends for his remarks to prevent advertisers pulling out. It should be VIEWERS that decide, not ADVERTISERS. But that's just not how capitalism works.
 
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79. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 22:27 Yaogun
 
Hump wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 21:58:
Read your quote and think about it. It would have been career SUICIDE if he DIDN'T do what was asked of him by GLAAD. Period. Was a gun put to his head? No. But thats about as complimentary as one can get about his situation. He had a burgeoning career, a family to support, etc. Its fucking extortion and you damn well know it. GLAAD and the rest of the Gay community know very well that Morgan wasn't being "hateful" or any other tag you wish to put on it. The media is SO frightened of appearing homophobic, racist that they will pander to special interest groups who look for a badge of victimization in order to legitimize their own agendas. It's disgusting and its dishonest.

Ah, well, I think we just have an irreconcilable difference of opinion. Yes it would have been career suicide to not apologize, but I put the blame squarely on Morgan. He was the idiot who said what he did. Whereas it seems like you put the blame on everyone but Morgan for daring to inflict some social consequence.
 
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78. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 22:13 theyarecomingforyou
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 17:50:
I don't get how you guys think "not offending your fellow man" is "robot thought police."

Some of you are giant dickheads. No real getting around it. If you can not make someone feel that the way they were born is a bad thing by just not using a word, why wouldn't you? And if you're a company, why would you feature someone using that word?

It's not about being a bleeding heart, or censoring thought, it's about not being such a callous jerk that you tell someone something they cannot help that is not wrong is, in fact, wrong.
I'm not quite sure who you're responding to but I think that's missing the point. This is about a gay rights group going out of its way to find offence where there wasn't any. The original video was satirical and the video shown at the event censored out any reference to that. This was just an opportunity to hijack a high profile event to promote their agenda. And yes, I do think people need to stop taking offence to everything. There was never ANY intent on Blizzard's part to cause offence. This is bullshit political correctness gone made.

There's plenty of bigotry about. Heck, I have a unicycle and when I ride it - along with all the praise and funny comments - I get people shouting out of vehicles comments like "get a bike you queer"; I've even had people try to push me over. And sometimes I wear unconventional clothes and I get similar insults. But you can't take offence to insults like that. Sure I'd knock them out if they did anything physical against me but in the end I just feel sad for these people, people that have nothing better to do than to make other people feel worse. It's the same with race. Minorities cannot hope to win by fighting their way to equality; you have to change the preconceptions of people, you have to prove you're better than the people insulting you.

I don't start fights when people yell insults at me. If you do you only make it worse. I'm sure it is difficult when your skin colour is a reason for people to insult you but you can't give bullies the satisfaction of seeing you upset.
 
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77. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 21:58 Hump
 
Yaogun wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 21:47:
Hump wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 19:54:
Its unfortunate that people have to grovel and beg forgiveness lest they get taken down by organizations like GLAAD. They will force an apology (Tracey Morgan is a good example) whether the apology is sincere or not. In Morgans case he had to do an apology tour, do events and generally say what the GLAAD puppetmasters told him to say.

Tracey Morgan did not HAVE to go on an apology tour. Nobody HAS to grovel and beg forgiveness. Morhaime did not HAVE to write a letter of apology. In both cases they decided is was professionally expedient to do so.

Morgan could have continued to say the things he said. Would he have lost popularity, and been booted from NBC? Very likely, but it's not some GLAAD-led liberal thought policing politically correct illuminati conspiracy like so many in this thread make it out to be.

Read your quote and think about it. It would have been career SUICIDE if he DIDN'T do what was asked of him by GLAAD. Period. Was a gun put to his head? No. But thats about as complimentary as one can get about his situation. He had a burgeoning career, a family to support, etc. Its fucking extortion and you damn well know it. GLAAD and the rest of the Gay community know very well that Morgan wasn't being "hateful" or any other tag you wish to put on it. The media is SO frightened of appearing homophobic, racist that they will pander to special interest groups who look for a badge of victimization in order to legitimize their own agendas. It's disgusting and its dishonest.
 
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76. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 21:47 Yaogun
 
Hump wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 19:54:
Its unfortunate that people have to grovel and beg forgiveness lest they get taken down by organizations like GLAAD. They will force an apology (Tracey Morgan is a good example) whether the apology is sincere or not. In Morgans case he had to do an apology tour, do events and generally say what the GLAAD puppetmasters told him to say.

Tracey Morgan did not HAVE to go on an apology tour. Nobody HAS to grovel and beg forgiveness. Morhaime did not HAVE to write a letter of apology. In both cases they decided is was professionally expedient to do so.

Morgan could have continued to say the things he said. Would he have lost popularity, and been booted from NBC? Very likely, but it's not some GLAAD-led liberal thought policing politically correct illuminati conspiracy like so many in this thread make it out to be. When one says something a jerk would say, others are going to think that person is a jerk (or maybe not want to be around them or consume their products if they represent a company). That's all there is to it.

And no, Hump, we're not going to erase homophobia in a single generation. And yes, Prez, there is chaos and hatred just under the surface of modern society (and it's freaky!). But I don't think these facts mean we should just give up and be psychopaths.
 
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75. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 21:40 Wildone
 
I sit on the bus every day listening to blacks call each other N's all the time, I dont get it.  
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74. Re: Blizzard's BlizzCon Apology Oct 28, 2011, 21:40 Hump
 
Question to all those saying that gays need to get a thicker skin, etc...

What was your position on the whole Michael Richards (Kramer) racist tirade? That blacks needed to get a thicker skin?

Richards did that from a place of anger and frustration. He was wrong. Unfortunately the black "community" doesn't differentiate between what Richards did and some other comedian or pundit using the "N" word when discussing its effects or using it in a comedic, non-hateful manner. Surely you are intelligent enough to tell the difference?

Context is EVERYTHING. Unfortunately it now seems more important that a special interest or minority group use such occasions as a way to continue to push agendas which usually involve them continuing to claim victimhood.
 
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