Prez wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 18:09:

Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 17:59:
no one is saying you shouldn't be able to say whatever you want, they're saying you shouldn't say whatever you want.

And people like you will continue to browbeat everyone until they feel like they aren't allowed to say anything at all because someone may get upset or otherwise have their delicate sensibilities hurt. Ergo, thought police.

Sorry, I'm going to say what I want, when I want, encourage others to do the same, and not care one iota that the thin-skinned people who think they have a right to never be offended don't like it. Yeah, I'm one of your "giant dickheads". Whatever.

Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 17:59:
they're saying you shouldn't say whatever you want.

Beamer wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 17:59:
no one is saying you shouldn't be able to say whatever you want, they're saying you shouldn't say whatever you want.

Darks wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 11:35:
Hey Mike, ill accept your apology if you send me over a Diablo 3 beta key.

Prez wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 17:15:
There's a simple illustration of this at work at every major intersection in every major city in America. When I was a young child growing up in Bronx, New York, I remember I liked sitting on the corner of a busy intersection and watching the traffic. Light turns red, the mass of vehicles would obligingly come to a halt. Light turns green, the mass would move on. So on and so forth. Nice and orderly and all under control. Until the traffic light stopped working. One day the light just up and quit, and I marveled at how what was once an orderly and behaved mass of cars descended into a chaotic, bombastic mess. It was utter mayhem - cars packed bumper to bumper in all directions. People screaming horrible things at one another. Two fights broke out and somebody got hurt. Bad. The ambulance could not make it to the scene for over an hour because of the gridlock. I ran home crying, not sure exactly why at the time. But it was the utter baseness of it - I got to see humanity with the 'civilization' illusion (in this case, something as small as a series of colored light bulbs) stripped away. And it was terrifying. It doesn't take much reflection on such a thing to come to understand that humanity teeters on the edge of complete regression at any given moment.

Yaogun wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 10:53:
Nice to see a real apology, and not one of those "I'm sorry you're offended" fake apologies. Quite refreshing.

Prez wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 16:58:

Yaogun wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 16:49:
No. Just, no. Hatred is an inherent part of the human condition. As instinctive as breathing.

I'm not sure I'd agree that humans are inherently hateful. But let's say you're right. There are a lot of things that are part of the human condition that we have learned to suppress or overcome in the interest of civilization. Why can't hatred be one of them?

I would contend that those of us who don't walk around killing each other have suppressed the base nature of our humanity through the help of organized civilization with a structured hierarchy of control (Something that I believe humanity needs to prevent falling into utter chaos). Were civilization to break down due to a global calamity, massive scale economic collapse, widespread global pandemic, what have you, I'd say it's a pretty good bet that the baseness of humans would come bubbling to the surface pretty quick.

Yaogun wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 16:49:
No. Just, no. Hatred is an inherent part of the human condition. As instinctive as breathing.

I'm not sure I'd agree that humans are inherently hateful. But let's say you're right. There are a lot of things that are part of the human condition that we have learned to suppress or overcome in the interest of civilization. Why can't hatred be one of them?

Prez wrote on Oct 28, 2011, 16:42:

Hatred is something learned and it can be stopped.

No. Just, no. Hatred is an inherent part of the human condition. As instinctive as breathing.