Xombie wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 12:00:
GLADD is a great organization, but they're not above criticism for manufactured outrage.

StingingVelvet wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 11:22:
"Gay" and "fag" were VERY commonly used words when I was in high school and after, mid-90's to early 2000's. It's going to take a lot of time for them to become the horrible slurs that instantly identify you as a homophobe that GLAAD and similar groups want them to be. Personally I bet that 80 year olds who were born in the 80's and 90's still say those words casually in 50 years, just like my grandpa still says all manner of shit currently considered racist/sexist/whatever. That's just human nature.

It's more about context than any words instantly identifying you as anything.

All that said, their performance was disgusting and not something I personally enjoy.

Xombie wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 12:00:
And what I'm saying is that in the context (which means how, not what) that was used, Fisher is as much of a homophobe as he is a murderer.

Beamer wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 11:44:
It.
Doesn't.
Matter.

It's not what he meant to say or what he meant to imply. GLAAD doesn't give a shit about the Alliance. What matters is the context in which he used the words he used. Joking or not he still chose those words for that meaning and that's what GLAAD is taking offense to.

Muscular Beaver wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 10:45:
What?
He only quoted a few sentences from everyday Trade Chat business.

Xombie wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 11:21:

he's using "homosexual" as a synonym for "pathetic."

You're still not getting it. He is not being serious about insulting them at all. Not just not "literally a homosexual who has sex with men". He was joking about the very concept of having any animosity at all. He was being hyperbolic about using "gay" in a figurative, insulting sense.

ZeroCougar wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 11:15:
Alright well with it being monitored I'll give my thoughts a bit.

I think they really shouldn't be using those words. Its 2011 that kind of child like talk should be over by the time you leave middle-school, or whatever your countries similar type of early-teen place of learning maybe.

I guess the Human race's destiny is to endlessly take two steps forward and one step back. Or in Cannibal corpse's case here 3 steps back.

he's using "homosexual" as a synonym for "pathetic."

Xombie wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 11:02:

You realize it's more offensive because he doesn't think they're gay, right? Or do you really misunderstand the whole fundamental concept?

Also, Cannibal Corpse are hacks.

I think you misunderstood the whole fundamental concept. It's hyperbole. His speech is intended to sound completely overblown and overly offensive and ridiculous. You're free to not like the theatrics, but that doesn't make them any more serious in context.

You realize it's more offensive because he doesn't think they're gay, right? Or do you really misunderstand the whole fundamental concept?

Also, Cannibal Corpse are hacks.

nature says homosexuality is wrong

ZeroCougar wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 10:45:
And with that here comes the R&P debate, that doesn't belong on a gaming site.

Just lock the thread now Blue, I'm sure it will not take long for this topic discussion to go from games centric to Religion & Politics.

Blue wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 10:50:

AnointedSword wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 10:35:
Ohhh yes, we cannot disagree with people's views anymore and get away with it. You know what, I am a Christian, we get bashed a lot as well. Yup, but I would not call it hate speech. For example, if someone kills a christian, they should be charged for murder. We start adding all this other bs to the mix and you will see homosexuals getting locked up for speaking their mind against Christians. I am not for hate speech regulation because guess who defines what hate speech is? You guessed it...the government and states...What exactly is hate speech? The bible and nature says homosexuality is wrong...Does that mean I cannot believe and have religious freedoms any longer? I am all for everyone being able to speak their mind. That includes the Christian, the muslim, etc...

So this inspired you to pen an impassioned response in favor of hate speech? Interesting.

For the record, they have not actually locked up anyone here for the opinions they expressed, so you can cancel the order for a phony passport, they're probably not coming after you either. And no one mentioned any "regulation," the band member expressed his thoughts on this topic, as has GLAAD. Since you seem to be all for free speech, you should be pleased as punch at how this all worked out.

AnointedSword wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 10:35:
Ohhh yes, we cannot disagree with people's views anymore and get away with it. You know what, I am a Christian, we get bashed a lot as well. Yup, but I would not call it hate speech. For example, if someone kills a christian, they should be charged for murder. We start adding all this other bs to the mix and you will see homosexuals getting locked up for speaking their mind against Christians. I am not for hate speech regulation because guess who defines what hate speech is? You guessed it...the government and states...What exactly is hate speech? The bible and nature says homosexuality is wrong...Does that mean I cannot believe and have religious freedoms any longer? I am all for everyone being able to speak their mind. That includes the Christian, the muslim, etc...