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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 14:10 |
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Probably not. So why is this different? Because you're not personally affected?
Maybe if Mike Morhaime came out and said it it would raise an issue with his position within Blizzard and whatnot...
...but coming from George Fisher, I'm not shocked at all by what he said or will ever say which may be attributed through desensitization brought on by his career in music and personality.
It's funny because on his wiki page, the only controversy listed is this incident at Blizzcon.  |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 14:09 |
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Darks wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 14:03:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:40:
I believe I’m guaranteed my rights under the current constitution.
I believe you're on a privately owned board, and your rights don't apply here.
I think some needs to go and read the constitution. Private board or not, that does not exclude our right to free speech.
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 14:08 |
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Darks wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 14:03:
nin wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:40:
I believe I’m guaranteed my rights under the current constitution.
I believe you're on a privately owned board, and your rights don't apply here.
I think some needs to go and read the constitution. Private board or not, that does not exclude our right to free speech.
Oh yes it does. Blue can do whatever he wants here. Are you going to draw up court papers about how some stranger won't let you say what you want on a board he runs? Good luck with that. Please PDF the copies, I'd love to read them.
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 14:03 |
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nin wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:40:
I believe I’m guaranteed my rights under the current constitution.
I believe you're on a privately owned board, and your rights don't apply here.
I think some needs to go and read the constitution. Private board or not, that does not exclude our right to free speech. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 14:02 |
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Beamer wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:50:
You do realize the hypocrisy here in not letting me be people, right? And now go back and re-read what I wrote more slowly.
Also, where do people like you draw the line?
If he had said "The Alliance are a bunch of [n-word]s and we should kill them all!" would that have been ok to you?
What if he came out in blackface? Would that have been cool?
What if he came out and said "I can't wait for WoW to be on the Xbox. PC gamers are all virgins that are too fat to even touch themselves!" Would you guys have been ok with that? Yes. Those are all fine, for a very obvious reason. If one segment of the population uses any of those with impunity all segments of the population should be able to use those with impunity. And various 'groups' do and have said things like that.
Probably not. So why is this different? Because you're not personally affected?
Also, it's hysterical how some morons turn this into religion or politics. Don't worry when things fly over your head, speech is political these days. I live in a country with a 'hate crime' law, which criminalizes speech. And can be fined, and thrown into jail without due process by a kangeroo court that exists outside the normal courts thanks.
Yep. Moron indeed, some of us just happen to see what happens when political and special interest groups do when they criminalize speech.
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:50 |
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Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:37:
Beamer wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:33:
Maybe we need to stop coddling those that speak stupidly. Maybe they should put on their big girl pants and grow a pair (how does this even make sense? And what are you saying about women?) and not just spew out whatever gibberish hits their brain?
Society needs to stop coddling people that can't think before they speak! Why? Can't you make your own choices based on what you choose? Do you need someone to tell you what speech is okay and what speech isn't? What your opinions, thoughts, and feelings on a subject should be? Perhaps we should let people be people, and let the individual admonish or support their opinions and beliefs by the person, instead of having "political correctness" and special interest groups, neuter speech out from people.
You do realize the hypocrisy here in not letting me be people, right?
Also, where do people like you draw the line?
If he had said "The Alliance are a bunch of [n-word]s and we should kill them all!" would that have been ok to you?
What if he came out in blackface? Would that have been cool?
What if he came out and said "I can't wait for WoW to be on the Xbox. PC gamers are all virgins that are too fat to even touch themselves!" Would you guys have been ok with that?
Probably not. So why is this different? Because you're not personally affected?
Also, it's hysterical how some morons turn this into religion or politics. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:44 |
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He said Alliance were fags and that they should die. One could interpret that as incitement of violence against gays. Calling them fags is one thing, but calling them fags AND saying they should die is another.
No, you're looking too far in to it. The entire reason it was done was to incite Horde faction pride which usually involves Horde ripping in to the Alliance since Alliance has poor representation within L90ETC. With George Fishier in the mix, no one should really be shocked with what comes out of his mouth.
Realize that the Horde has some serious fans which can border on crazy. Some get tattoos, make ugly car decals, create songs or machinima, wear T shirts, and scream Lok'tar Ogar in real life whereas the Alliance are usually singled out whenever possible.
This should simply be taken as one of those example of Horde pride which deviates from what we typically see. The only difference is is that this was done by Blizzard at Blizzcon as opposed to some kid with a garage band posting the video to youtube. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:40 |
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I believe I’m guaranteed my rights under the current constitution.
I believe you're on a privately owned board, and your rights don't apply here.
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:39 |
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Beamer wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:33:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:15:
Prez wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 12:51:
I have a gay sister. I have a gay friend. I am not outraged by his comments. My gay friend would think the whole thing was pretty funny, because unlike the primadonnas of the world, he has a sense of humor.
Just wanted to share. 
The problem really lies in the way everyone is coddled and everything has to be so politically correct as to not offend any group or individual these days. To me it's just sad that the liberal ideology movement wants to pussify the world so as to not hurt little bobby's feelings because someone called him gay in jest or teasing.
To people that get offended at things like this that aren't meant to be serious I have one suggestion, pull up your big girl panties and grow a pair.
Maybe we need to stop coddling those that speak stupidly. Maybe they should put on their big girl pants and grow a pair (how does this even make sense? And what are you saying about women?) and not just spew out whatever gibberish hits their brain?
Society needs to stop coddling people that can't think before they speak!
Thanks for showing exactly what I was talking about. Oh noes someone said something in jest that isn't PC! I am offended and need to call them stupid now! Voted for Obama did ya Beamer?  How's tha Hopey Changey gabage working out for ya?
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:38 |
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Blue wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 10:54:
ZeroCougar wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 10:45:
And with that here comes the R&P debate, that doesn't belong on a gaming site.
Just lock the thread now Blue, I'm sure it will not take long for this topic discussion to go from games centric to Religion & Politics.
Well it would be unfortunate to have to lock a thread about the implications of free speech... if irony was inflammable we might start a fire. I agree though, that there's no need for this to get into a religious debate, so having responded to that post, I'll most likely delete future attempts to take this thread down that path.
Funny Blues how you talk about free speech yet you removed my comment about Gays and their weird ways... Nice!!!
Where’s my free speech when you removed it? I believe I’m guaranteed my rights under the current constitution.
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:37 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Beamer wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:33:
Maybe we need to stop coddling those that speak stupidly. Maybe they should put on their big girl pants and grow a pair (how does this even make sense? And what are you saying about women?) and not just spew out whatever gibberish hits their brain?
Society needs to stop coddling people that can't think before they speak! Why? Can't you make your own choices based on what you choose? Do you need someone to tell you what speech is okay and what speech isn't? What your opinions, thoughts, and feelings on a subject should be? Perhaps we should let people be people, and let the individual admonish or support their opinions and beliefs by the person, instead of having "political correctness" and special interest groups, neuter speech out from people. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:34 |
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They were expecting political correctness from a guy who's album covers feature dead babies and such?
He probably thought he was just doing a good job of sounding exactly like 85% of all WoW players in-game.
You can't go ten minutes with someone calling you a fag. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:33 |
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RollinThundr wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 13:15:
Prez wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 12:51:
I have a gay sister. I have a gay friend. I am not outraged by his comments. My gay friend would think the whole thing was pretty funny, because unlike the primadonnas of the world, he has a sense of humor.
Just wanted to share.
The problem really lies in the way everyone is coddled and everything has to be so politically correct as to not offend any group or individual these days. To me it's just sad that the liberal ideology movement wants to pussify the world so as to not hurt little bobby's feelings because someone called him gay in jest or teasing.
To people that get offended at things like this that aren't meant to be serious I have one suggestion, pull up your big girl panties and grow a pair.
Maybe we need to stop coddling those that speak stupidly. Maybe they should put on their big girl pants and grow a pair (how does this even make sense? And what are you saying about women?) and not just spew out whatever gibberish hits their brain?
Society needs to stop coddling people that can't think before they speak! |
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Re: removed |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:26 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 12:10:
* REMOVED *
This comment was deleted on Oct 27, 2011, 12:18. Okay there! Obviously us thin skinned Canadians are out of line, in this utopia of caring up here. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:24 |
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| I think it goes beyond just name calling. He said Alliance were fags and that they should die. One could interpret that as incitement of violence against gays. Calling them fags is one thing, but calling them fags AND saying they should die is another. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:23 |
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Prez wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 12:51:
I have a gay sister. I have a gay friend. I am not outraged by his comments. My gay friend would think the whole thing was pretty funny, because unlike the primadonnas of the world, he has a sense of humor.
Just wanted to share.
Good point.
Yes, this 'Hate Speech' was extreme and unnecessary.
So, to expand on your comments, if I may, for example - I wonder why a comedian can make a heterosexual joke, and heterosexuals find it funny and entertaining, but if a comedian makes a homosexual/gay joke, most of the gays are up in arms and scream that it is offensive blah, blah, blah. Heterosexuals laugh because they are comfortable with their sexuality, so if homosexuals ‘REALLY’ felt right and comfortable with their sexuality they shouldn’t find it offensive, but funny/entertaining.
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:17 |
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| They should just rename the band the Hannah Montana Experience now because that's where this is heading for next year. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:15 |
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Prez wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 12:51:
I have a gay sister. I have a gay friend. I am not outraged by his comments. My gay friend would think the whole thing was pretty funny, because unlike the primadonnas of the world, he has a sense of humor.
Just wanted to share.
The problem really lies in the way everyone is coddled and everything has to be so politically correct as to not offend any group or individual these days. To me it's just sad that the liberal ideology movement wants to pussify the world so as to not hurt little bobby's feelings because someone called him gay in jest or teasing.
To people that get offended at things like this that aren't meant to be serious I have one suggestion, pull up your big girl panties and grow a pair. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 13:02 |
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Prez wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 12:51:
I have a gay sister. I have a gay friend. I am not outraged by his comments. My gay friend would think the whole thing was pretty funny, because unlike the primadonnas of the world, he has a sense of humor.
Just wanted to share.
I get offended that people think name calling is still offensive after high school. |
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Re: BlizzCon Hate-Speech Criticized |
Oct 27, 2011, 12:51 |
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I have a gay sister. I have a gay friend. I am not outraged by his comments. My gay friend would think the whole thing was pretty funny, because unlike the primadonnas of the world, he has a sense of humor.
Just wanted to share. |
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