bhcompy wrote on Oct 4, 2011, 13:14:

Beamer wrote on Oct 4, 2011, 12:53:

And? id games have had longevity.

I've played Quake more hours than every other game I've ever played combined.

How many hours did you get from Doom 3?


Good job, though, on claiming you got more hours out of a 16 year old game than a 7 year old game.

The point is longevity. I played Homefront through once and rarely played it after that. There was nothing to hold me there. Ditto with Doom 3, really. Nobody is playing Daikatana despite it being very old, but there are plenty still playing games of similar/older age like Quake 2, Half-life, etc. I'll still go back to Quake fairly often and still see people playing that I've played with for over 10 years, because the game is so good at certain things that there is nothing that can compare. And like I said, Quake more than every other game combined, not just one game.

Companies like Bethesda, Activision, EA, Ubisoft, etc are deliberately breaking a proven system(HLCS being 1 or 2 top played on Steam right now is indicative of this) in order to have more institutional control. No private dedicated servers means that, no matter how awesome the game may be, it has a defined lifespan. Fuck that. Same goes for every other standard feature that becomes vaporware. Those games last so long and generate future revenue and goodwill for the company do so because of the features, not despite them(which is how the companies treat said features, as if they are antagonistic).