Creston wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 21:56:

PropheT wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 18:37:

Creston wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 18:26:
By saying it's a gaming culture problem, you're basically saying that it's because these people play games, they are therefore assholes to women.

That's a pretty big stretch and a ridiculous conclusion to come to. Gamers shouting epithets or using questionable language at each other isn't exactly something new, whether it's people calling each other fags on Xbox Live or a gamer proclaiming how he "raped" someone else at any other game out there.

Again, this is a SMALL SUBSET of gamers. Not every gamer does that. In fact, other than the mouthbreathing imbeciles on Xbox live (which in and of themselves are only a small subset of gamers), it really doesn't happen very much at all. Stop saying that this is what gaming culture is.

SOME gamers are assholes and call each other fag. The large majority just plays games. Same as in the rest of society. There is no great "ill" that infests gaming culture and makes it somehow different from anything else. Anyone that claims that is full of shit.

I don't think anyone has ever claimed, outside of maybe Jack Thompson and Fox News, that it's the games making those people act like that rather than being a problem with the community members who do it and the culture of the gaming community that, for the most part, allows it.

Which is exactly what I'm saying. It's a group of PEOPLE who are doing it. This "joke" was ONE GUY doing it.

It's not "Gamers" or "Gamer Culture" doing it. It's a limited amount of people. By claiming it's a gaming CULTURE problem you're saying that EVERYONE is doing it.

Which is horseshit.

Creston