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One of the consequences of accidentally releasing a developer's build of the game is the possibility of revealing removed content or inside jokes, as illustrated by a report on Kotaku about a discovery within the build of Dead Island inadvertently released on Steam (thanks nin). Word is a hunt through the game's code reveals the Gender Wars skill that allows Purna to deal extra damage to male opponents was originally called "Feminist Whore." This is confirmed with Techland, who indicate that while there weren't necessarily dire consequences for releasing a debug build instead of the final build of the game, there may be for this incident, as they say: "The person responsible for this unfortunate situation will face professional consequences for violating the professional standards and beliefs Techland stands for." Deep Silver also disavows this, saying: "These unfortunate actions were of one individual at developer company Techland and do not in any way represent the views of publishing company Deep Silver." Here's more of the response from Blazej Krakowiak, Techland International Brand Manager: The line in question was something a programmer considered a private joke. The skill naturally has a completely different in-game name and the script reference was also changed. What is left is a part of an obscure debug function. This is merely an explanation but by no means an excuse. In the end that code was made a part of the product and signed with our company name. We deeply regret that fact and we apologize to all our customers or anyone who might have been offended by that inappropriate expression.
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Draugr wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 16:27: Right, because games like Bayonetta, DOA, and Lollipop chainsaw aren't all there just waiting to illustrate my point. They might not be offensive in the same fashion, but it does help illustrate Sexism/views of women in gaming culture. There is a HUGE difference between a culture that fully embraces "Sex Sells!" as a motto (as does Hollywood, as does TV, as does marketing in general, etc.) and one clown calling a skill that does extra damage to male opponents "feminist whore."
I have no problem with DOA releasing a volleyball game that's nothing but tits and ass and bikinis. Horny 13 year old boys probably bought that shit in droves. It's the same reason Megan Fox wore skimpy outfits in Transformers. It's not the same, and should not be swept under the same rug, as one guy making a really rather poor joke.
(I'm not personally offended by the Feminist Whore thing, but it does really lack any form of taste whatsoever.)
Women make up a decent portion of people who game, when they see an article like this all and the responses it generates, it doesn't surprise me at all that they try to stay hidden. Well, that and if they did speak up and anyone caught a whiff of them being a woman they instantly get harassed, (Which I suppose brings us full circle to gaming culture in relation to women.) Women get harassed in every walk of life. This is not something that is somehow unique to gamers. It's fine if this upsets you, but there is no need to go around and laying blame and guilt on a subset of society that doesn't deserve it. (or at least any more than any other part of society.)
Gamers are people. They love the same as everyone else; they eat, breathe and sleep the same as everyone else; they act just as stupidly as everyone else; they make just as many poor decisions as everyone else; they are capable of the same bigotry and hatred and misogynism as everyone else. There is nothing about gamers that makes them "hate women more" or "objectify women more" or whatever.
The sooner everyone, and especially the fucking media and politicians get this through their head, we can maybe stop treating gamers, aka PEOPLE, as something that's somehow mutated from the rest of society.
One clown in a dev studio made a poor choice and a dumb joke. That's all this is. There's nothing more to see here. Whether anyone is offended by this is their own personal choice.
This isn't some indictment of "Gaming Culture as a whole." It's ONE GUY who did this.
Creston
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