Valve Games on Origin

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In an interesting twist to the competition between Valve's Steam and Electronic Arts' Origin, the Origin store is now selling some Valve games, as seen in this buy two get on free promotion, where the games in the "buy two" part include Counter-Strike: Source, Left For Dead: Game Of The Year Edition, and Left For Dead 2. Thanks Joystiq.

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 15:34

eRe4s3r

Uh yes, if you use paypal via proxy you'll get decimated

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 15:29

Kajetan

eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 3, 2011, 14:50: And before you say it, i know that using proxy for buying stuff is fraud It is? Where? This is not fraud, this is merely against some EULA chapters, nothing more. No judge will come after you, when you buy stuff from a company from a region where they do not want to sell you stuff. I frequently buy games on Steam with a proxy.

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 15:13

Fion

eunichron wrote on Sep 3, 2011, 14:46: zincthallinide wrote on Sep 3, 2011, 14:36: Re: The $5 'pre-order' charge for SWTOR, I was confused about that myself originally. I'm not sure why they have the $5 charge at all, except to get some immediate charge on your CC since they don't bill you in full until the game is released..? I would imagine so. Since they are limiting the launch (which is really the only truly "evil" and stupid thing EA is doing with SW:TOR) it seems more like a, "get a charge on your CC so we know you're serious about buying it, and you know you'll get a copy." Same as pre-ordering from a brick-and-mortar; you pay a small fee to guarantee that you get your copy, but it doesn't add to the total cost of the game. That would make sense but when was the last time you pre-ordered a digital product and didn't pay the full price up front? I thought only stores had the 'pay a fee now, and the full price when the game ships'? So for a digital release, it just doesn't make sense to charge that extra $5. I'd rather pay for the game now than wait until release when I'll be broke because of xmas anyway lol. Edit: I checked the FAQ for TOR and indeed when you pay the $5 you are paying a fee so that a copy will be available to you when you go to purchase the game (either at a store or on Origin). I'd personally rather you just pre-purchase the game outright like you do at.. every single other digital game store on the planet. This comment was edited on Sep 3, 2011, 15:19.

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 15:03

Bhruic

I can't say I'm really happy with Origin at this point, but I do like that they are trying to promote it positively, rather than relying on "forced usage". But the interface itself is fairly annoying - there are few options to control how it works, and things like updating aren't done automatically, it basically does a complete new install. The biggest problem, however, is that they are charging tax. Out of all the DDs that I've used (4 to this point), no other one has charged me tax on a game. So even with sales, Origin can end up costing more than other places - meaning I'll likely never use it as a place to get anything but EA games. Not sure I'd even bother with those, if there are other options (I purchased BF3 through Origin since someone else was paying ;P).

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 14:50

eRe4s3r

So coming from support chat i can tell you this Status: Connected Searching for an available advisor You have been re-queued. Rajeev (Responding) Rajeev: Hi, my name is Rajeev. How may I help you? 901706123: Hi there Just a random quesitona bout Origin 901706123: on bluesnews was a news post about the Origin sale 901706123: buy 2 get 1 free 901706123: is that US only? 901706123: Because apparently neither can I see the sale, nor the games in question (l4d/css/l4d2) which is a bit confusing... Rajeev: Please visit : http://store.origin.com and check whether the offer is in your region or not. If it is not then you are not eligible for this offer 901706123: Ah, so sales are regionally different then? Is there some place where i can bugger EA directly then? Rajeev: Yes, most of the offers are region specific. 901706123: ah ;( 901706123: ok thanks for your time... as i said, random quesiton Rajeev: Nope, you can purchase games from Origin only there is no other place of EA. Rajeev: You are welcome. I am pleased that I was able to answer your question to your expectation. Rajeev: Is there anything else I can help you with today? 901706123: Just 1 thing Rajeev: Sure 901706123: does Origin have any stance of the use of proxies? 901706123: or vpn to change regions? Is that illegal according to the TOS? Rajeev: I believe you won't be able to change region using proxies and for TOS I would suggest that please visit http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/ 901706123: hah Well i looked there beforre coming here 901706123: it doesn't really say or mention proxies 901706123: the quesiton is because.. on steam forums theres always topics about using VPN to fake region 901706123: to unlock early and such Rajeev: If it is not mentioned there, then it doesn't come under TOS 901706123: Mhhh ok then i'll leave you in peace now I thank you for the reply Rajeev: You are welcome. Rajeev: Thank you for your participation. Have a wonderful day. Which is pretty Interesting don't you think? And sorry about the typos.. ^^ And before you say it, i know that using proxy for buying stuff is fraud - this was just to check whether its generally accepted or not. And that said, apparently you can't directly complain to EA about Origin store policies via this, and i am not sure how you could. This comment was edited on Sep 3, 2011, 14:57.

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 14:46

eunichron

zincthallinide wrote on Sep 3, 2011, 14:36: Re: The $5 'pre-order' charge for SWTOR, I was confused about that myself originally. I'm not sure why they have the $5 charge at all, except to get some immediate charge on your CC since they don't bill you in full until the game is released..? I would imagine so. Since they are limiting the launch (which is really the only truly "evil" and stupid thing EA is doing with SW:TOR) it seems more like a, "get a charge on your CC so we know you're serious about buying it, and you know you'll get a copy." Same as pre-ordering from a brick-and-mortar; you pay a small fee to guarantee that you get your copy, but it doesn't add to the total cost of the game.

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 14:36

zincthallinide

Re: The $5 'pre-order' charge for SWTOR, I was confused about that myself originally. I'm not sure why they have the $5 charge at all, except to get some immediate charge on your CC since they don't bill you in full until the game is released..? Really though, it's one of those 'buy one get one free' TV commercial type things where it's all marketing, since they're not currently selling only one of their amazing product at a time anyway.. Also, Pocket Fisherman.. heyy.. has anyone ever actually used one of those things?

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 14:31

eRe4s3r

Yeah my "origin" page does not even have the sale on it. Gonna complain to EA about this, i mean. i am bored, and grumpy! perfect combination Edit: Wow, i just discovered that i can not sent a simple support email to the customer service, it only allows me to select games, not Origin itself. Only way to even contact support ABOUT origin is to cheat the region detection, wtf? This comment was edited on Sep 3, 2011, 14:36.

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 14:17

eunichron

eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 3, 2011, 14:05: For some reason i see neither the sale mentioned nor the games mentioned. Looks to be an US only offer. Half tempted to ask EA about that... The full list of games is buy any 2 of these: Dragon Age: Origins Dragon Age: Origins II Dead Space 2 Crysis Crysis Warhead Counter-Strike: Source Bulletstorm Left4Dead Left4Dead 2 ... and get one of these for free: Medal of Honor Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Mass Effect 2 Dead Space The Saboteur All of the paid titles are $19.99, except for Crysis and DA:O II which are $29.99. Wouldn't be a bad deal at all if I didn't already own most of those titles. The SW:TOR pre-order thing; yes they charge you $5 to pre-order, but the price of the game when you pre-order $54.99, making the total price for a pre-order $59.99... the same price it will be at retail launch. Are you guys even trying anymore?

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 14:06

eRe4s3r

I pay 30$ more on Steam if i pre-order... think about that If Origin has no proxy-defense....

Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 14:05

eRe4s3r

For some reason i see neither the sale mentioned nor the games mentioned. Looks to be an US only offer. Half tempted to ask EA about that...

Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 13:57

theyarecomingforyou

[VG]Reagle wrote on Sep 3, 2011, 13:40:
Misleading title. These games are electronic and require steam. So you can launch them through Origin but you need steam.

No, it's not misleading. All Steamworks titles - wherever they're bought - require Steam.




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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 13:56

Dades

Fion wrote on Sep 3, 2011, 13:08: EA can suck it. You know Origin is charging people $5 on top of the game's price to pre-order The Old Republic? That's right charging EXTRA to pre-order a game! I'm still amazed they have some deluded defenders around here. That kind of predatory pricing is exactly what EA will be squeezing everyone with if Origin ever takes off, make no mistake.

Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 13:40

[VG]Reagle

Misleading title. These games are electronic and require steam. So you can launch them through Origin but you need steam.

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Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 13:37

nin

Does origin now show system requirements, specifically that it requires steam? I looke don both the CSS and LFD2 pages.

Looks like it's only physical copies, too.




RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure. Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling...

Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 13:26

vrok

Fion wrote on Sep 3, 2011, 13:08: EA can suck it. You know Origin is charging people $5 on top of the game's price to pre-order The Old Republic? That's right charging EXTRA to pre-order a game! The game is terrible. You should be thankful that they're making you reconsider buying it.

Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 13:08

Fion

EA can suck it. You know Origin is charging people $5 on top of the game's price to pre-order The Old Republic? That's right charging EXTRA to pre-order a game! This comment was edited on Sep 3, 2011, 13:16.

Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 13:04

GunSpeed

Good, next we should see an integration with both clients... Steam makes it easier to invite your friends to join your steam enabled game. Supreme Commander 2 is one of those games.

Re: Valve Games on Origin

Sep 3, 2011, 13:00

Rattlehead

I think it's maybe cause EA published the retail editions or something.

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