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10. Re: Steve Jobs Was 'Henry Ford' of The Computer Industry. Aug 27, 2011, 13:14 MattyC
 
yuastnav wrote on Aug 27, 2011, 10:14:
MattyC wrote on Aug 27, 2011, 00:59:
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'Snake oil salesman' generally refers to someone selling something of minimal to no benefit. Pretty much just pure BS. I have [...]

And there will be people who swear that what they just took is not a placebo. Yes, you use that, doesn't mean someone else cannot say it's snake oil because it's useless.
Furthermore you did nothing to disprove the fact that comparing Ford to Jobs is utter bullshit and reeks of fanboyism and/or a lack of a intelligence to discern someone with real ides from some public figure.

What? The Placebo effect is perceived action. I don't imagine that my iPod plays my music, video, and surfed the web. Those are things it did and it is clearly observable to others. I also like working on my MBP. I like multiple desktops and expose. I wish Windows had such features. Other people can observe me using them quite easily... those are features, not something I perceive. You can go on calling it snake oil all you want but yeah..

I also listed that Jobs has done more than just raw marketing. And even if he had JUST been a marketing master - that matters. Marketing determines all kinds of trends in society. Even if that were the case you would be raging over semantics.

As an example I really don't get The Sims. I just don't see how it could be fun. That said I don't pretend Maxis is hawking 'useless snake oil' or pretend the series hasn't been successful and important. You don't have to like something to observe its impact.

Creston wrote on Aug 26, 2011, 12:07:
MattyC wrote on Aug 26, 2011, 09:25:
I think some British guys were the first to actually come up with it, but IIRC it was Cadillac that rolled out the modern peddle system and layout.

Top Gear proved you wrong on that.

Creston

Really? I thought I learned that from Top Gear Embarassed Who actually rolled it out to the mainstream?
 
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