^Drag0n^ wrote on Aug 28, 2011, 23:31:

Dev wrote on Aug 27, 2011, 06:41:
Here's what he looks like now:
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick

I'm pretty sure its medical issues as to why he's resigning now.

Oh man. That's just heartbreaking :/

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Dev wrote on Aug 27, 2011, 06:41:
Here's what he looks like now:
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick

I'm pretty sure its medical issues as to why he's resigning now.

SectorEffector wrote on Aug 25, 2011, 16:00:
You can't convince me that they didn't sway the market in the next direction, just look at Nintendo shitting themselves over the mobile games market.

Same for the iPad. NOBODY ELSE gave a shit about these touch screen tablet's until the iPad did some shit right (albiet with a really simple and bland OS) It still wound up the market. You can't ignore these things if you want to talk tech and have other savvies take you seriously.

Creston wrote on Aug 25, 2011, 11:32:

Theo wrote on Aug 25, 2011, 10:03:
It just works, and unlike my wifes HTC/droid handset, it has a clean efficent UI that doesnt look like it was designed by a 90's KDE developer (read someone who was designing a UI with no UI design skills).

That's your opinion. I find the iPhone's UI to be a giant pile of flaming shit. The buttons are never in the same place on the screen. They're never called the same thing. Trying to navigate back to the screen you were before always turns into a mini version of "Where's Waldo?"

Compare that to Sense, which simply has a back button on the phone. And a Menu button, that brings up screen context-sensitive information every time you push it.

The iPhone's a good phone, but hailing it as some form of Uber-UI is, imo, a little bit too much Steve Jobs Fluffery. As even Peter MolyNENEYUSUYSUUXUXUXUXUXU eventually found out, there's nothing wrong with having a few consistent buttons.

Creston

Theo wrote on Aug 25, 2011, 10:03:
It just works, and unlike my wifes HTC/droid handset, it has a clean efficent UI that doesnt look like it was designed by a 90's KDE developer (read someone who was designing a UI with no UI design skills).

Parallax Abstraction wrote on Aug 25, 2011, 09:09:
Apple did copy/steal a lot of stuff in the early days but I agree with you that it's silly to say everything they're releasing now is just a copy of someone else's work.

The only comment I wanted to address is your shoddy sweatshop one because that's definitely not something Apple is above. Their #1 manufacturing partner is Foxconn, a company with a long-reaching horrendous reputation for abusing and exploiting workers. They recently had a rash of suicides at the factory that makes the iPad because people were being forced to work 20 hour days with no overtime, being verbally and physically abused and like many Chinese factories, the majority of the little money they did make went into paying for the factory provided quarters which make slums here look like the Ritz Carlton. Their solution? Install nets so that people who attempted suicide wouldn't succeed. A lot of companies use Foxconn so Apple isn't alone on that front but Apple has the power to improve conditions for the people who build their stuff and frankly, doesn't care.

nin wrote on Aug 24, 2011, 20:20:
I'm not a fan of Steve, but I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone. The fact that he's stepped aside makes me wonder if he got bad news...

Dmitri_M wrote on Aug 25, 2011, 03:04:
Apple develops Fisher Price tech products for people with disposable incomes.

As a person who is into computer hardware and technology I've never paid them much attention to them. "Tech journalists" seem to lavish a disportionate amount of column space to a company that is better at aesthetic product design and doesn't impact anyone who is seriously into hardware, or a poweruser.

Dmitri_M wrote on Aug 25, 2011, 03:04:
Apple develops Fisher Price tech products for people with disposable incomes.

As a person who is into computer hardware and technology I've never paid them much attention to them. "Tech journalists" seem to lavish a disportionate amount of column space to a company that is better at aesthetic product design and doesn't impact anyone who is seriously into hardware, or a poweruser.

^Drag0n^ wrote on Aug 25, 2011, 01:58:
Look, the iPad, iPhone, Hell, any smartphone, aren't made for people like the majority here that tinker. It's not made for us. We're PC gamers. we like being able to mess with things. But the i-line? They are consumer items, not hacker/hobbyist tools, and as such, are developed with the appropriate UI complexity in mind. Like Toasters. Blu-ray players, xboxes, whatever. Made to be as intuitive as possible. That's not a bad thing, it's a good thing. They specialize in accessible technology, not the latest and most powerful. And it works. Both for their shareholders and their customers...there's no denying Apple is succeeding in the face of an abundantly shitty economy, and I'm totally ok with it being an American company with a huge campus in California succeeding, rather than some shoddy sweatshop making beige boxes in Malaysia.

"But I'm not going to sit here and let people throw drivel around about how Apple is a company that never innovated. They've done plenty of that. It just may not be your particular cup of tea.

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