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Runic on Diablo III vs. Torchlight 2 RMTs and DRM

There's an interview on IncGamers with Runic Games' Max Schaefer focusing on the recent revelation that Diablo III will have an auction house with real-money transactions and will require a persistent internet connection to play. These topics are relevant since Schaefer has previously worked on the Diablo series, and Runic's Torchlight 2 is widely regarded as the main competition for Diablo III. He explains how Torchlight 2 will feature neither RMTs nor always-on DRM, but that he understands what Blizzard is trying to accomplish: "Whatever you do, you have to make sacrifices. We sacrifice a cheat-free environment to give players the most options, they are sacrificing options and flexibility for security of the economy like you would in an MMO. I understand their approach and sympathize with the technical difficulties of what they are trying to do." He also says he does think that there are circumstances where always-on DRM can be considered ethical in a non-MMOG, but also notes that he's actually always considered Diablo II and III to be MMORPGs of a sort anyway: "I think that there really is no meaningful distinction between Diablo 3 (or Diablo 2) and an MMORPG. By my reckoning, it is one, but that's been my position for a long, long time."

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33. Re: Runic on Diablo III vs. Torchlight 2 RMTs and DRM Aug 11, 2011, 11:00 Verno
 
Yakubs wrote on Aug 11, 2011, 10:47:
Are you serious? That's like saying that your biggest complaint with Deep Throat Denise IV was the lack of storyline.

Listen Deep Throat Denise IV had a great script, alright Disguise

But yes, I am serious. I need a storyline to keep things moving, something I can remotely get into. Torchlight was all about busting down the 4th wall which got obnoxious after awhile. Yes I am playing a Diablo clone hahaha I get it game, thank you. Torchlight was a great shell of a game but everything felt like placeholders, that's the best way I can think of to describe it.

I am not a fan of always on DRM. I am just trying to be reasonable with my complaints. To me, Diablo has been an online only game. This greatly reduces the hacking/cheating that has always been rampant in Diablo and to be honest if internet wasn't available I wouldn't bother playing a Diablo game anway.

Yes that's all wonderful but again its all about you and this isn't. People aren't necessarily being all doom and gloom about it, some of us might still purchase the game despite reservations. It's about making a reasonable compromise to accommodate people who can't always be married to their internet connection which they shouldn't really need to be for the SP portion of the game.

To anyone who played Diablo online it has been an always online game since Diablo II. Open Battle.net there was a nightmare. It was all hackers and cheaters. You couldn't go on regular Battle.net with a single player character so it basically was an online only game.

The online requirement doesn't give the consumer anything, your examples are all related to the multiplayer side of the game and it was a problem previously solved with open/closed battlenet anyway. People aren't asking to interfere with that, they just want an alternative for doing the storyline portion of the game. It's a reasonable expectation considering the history of these games, the functionality is already built and that it isn't exactly outside the realm of possibility someone would want to play Diablo 3 without internet.
 
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