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16. Re: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 13, 2011, 12:17 Jerykk
 
There are already plenty of PowerPC emulators out there. As for Johnny's underpowered Gateway laptop, MS can just have minimum requirements for the emulator. It's not like they have to make it work on every PC.  
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15. Re: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 13, 2011, 08:11 Beamer
 
I don't think it would be that difficult for MS to make a barebones emulator.

360 has 3 PowerPCs. We're still at a point where most PCs are dual-core. And everything on the 360 is closely fine-tuned to match the instruction sets of those PowerPCs.

Microsoft will not do this. It will just give them a huge, huge black eye when games aren't running properly on Johnny's underpowered Gateway laptop.
 
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14. Re: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 13, 2011, 01:29 CreamyBlood
 
jdreyer wrote on Jul 11, 2011, 23:37:
Here's the terrifying potential of this: Developers will no longer bother to make PC games, ...

Here's the terrifying reality of this: Developers no longer bother to make PC games right now.

Most of those games you listed are designed for the consoles and basically suck because of it. Just because they slap on mouse support, crank up the resolution a bit and sometimes add higher textures still makes them shitty console games.

Maybe I'm exaggerating a bit but most games I've tried in the last few years haven't been very good. Including the CoD shit, Fallout 3, Bioware 'so-called' RPGs, Crysis 2, Batman, Bioshock, Bethseda crap, and yes, even the Witcher. It's disappointing but most of our PC games are just half-baked consolised junk. I don't really care about the graphics.

How about they make PC games for the PC again? We have enough Xbox shit already.

 
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13. Re: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 13, 2011, 00:30 Jerykk
 
As we've seen for years with emulators, PCs can't necessarily run the games of far less powerful consoles.

Unofficial, third-party emulators aren't quite the same as official first-party ones. The X360 is already very similar to a PC. I don't think it would be that difficult for MS to make a barebones emulator.
 
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12. Re: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 12, 2011, 10:01 Alamar
 
jdreyer wrote on Jul 11, 2011, 23:37:
Here's the terrifying potential of this: Developers will no longer bother to make PC games, only XBOX console games and just assume if people want to play them, they will play the XBox version on their PC.

That really is a scary thought, but I think it's unlikely... At least in regards to the blanket 'developers will no longer...'. Some won't, as they're already doing now, with a much touted (here) half-assed attempt at a console to PC port (that will no longer be required, thereby saving those companies a good deal of change).

Lots of interesting thoughts in this thread.

As for the nay sayers... I don't know if it's the MS hate, or just realizing that this potentiality is years off... But consider that, we're at a time where the new brand of 'next gen' consoles are just about due...

What use is a 360 when the '720' is out? Surely, the '720' will play 360 games, but how much are MS/Sony making on the original XBox, or PS1/2 RIGHT NOW?

Doesn't it seem lucrative, that Windows 8 would include support for aging hardware... The rumor isn't about Windows 8 supporting the CURRENT (as in, when W8 is current) console hardware... That would be silly... But to get more re-use out of old content, that's always a great idea (GoG, even some steam games that don't run on Win7).

Also consider that the 360 is built much more like a PC than any other console... So the company that designed both the hardware, the OS, and Windows, might just find an efficient way for it to work on Win8 without 'emulation' per se...

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11. Re: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 12, 2011, 08:18 Beamer
 
MS also loves control.

It's not that they love it, it's that they need it.

Yes, the Xbox is less powerful than PCs. But its software is more tailored to it. As we've seen for years with emulators, PCs can't necessarily run the games of far less powerful consoles.

So what if Microsoft lets up control and lets PCs run 360 games? You end up with Vista all over again - with people trying to run these on systems far too weak for them and blaming the software rather than the hardware.
 
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10. Re: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 12, 2011, 07:44 AdamK47
 
It won't happen. Microsoft wants to sell hardware. They also want people using their digital rights management. That being the hardware. Allowing the games to run on Windows would circumvent that.  
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9. Re: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 11, 2011, 23:53 Jerykk
 
I'm going to file this rumor under "No Chance in Hell." Microsoft has spent millions (billions?) trying to turn the Xbox into the most popular "high-end" console. They are not going to undermine all that by letting you play X360 games on your PC. MS also loves control. With a console, they have absolute control. On a PC? Not so much. MS wants the Xbox to be the only entertainment device that consumers use.  
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8. Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8. Jul 11, 2011, 23:37 jdreyer
 
Here's the terrifying potential of this: Developers will no longer bother to make PC games, only XBOX console games and just assume if people want to play them, they will play the XBox version on their PC.

Consider if this had been done at the XBox 360 release. There would be no PC versions of Civ 5, COD: MW or MW2 or BO, GTA 4, Oblivion, Fallout 3 & NV, Portal 2, Mass Effect 1 & 2, Crysis II, Batman: AA, Dragon Age 1 & 2, BF: Bad Company II, Fable III (I know, who cares, but still), and many others. We'd be playing all of those games on our PCs with an Xbox controller, not keyboard and mouse, with all of the crappy graphics, low rez (720p), control issues, and other limitations of such a compromise.

And how would this trend have affected the development of initial PC exclusives like The Witcher, Starcraft II, DOW II, Shogun 2 (and the whole TW series) and STALKER? Would they have been made instead as Xbox games? Given the massive XBox install base, the chances are that many of these would have been made as XBox games. True native PC offerings would have been extremely limited.
 
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7. Re: etc., etc. Jul 11, 2011, 22:31 PropheT
 
Sepharo wrote on Jul 11, 2011, 22:01:
If not, at least their next console will have Windows 8/9 right?

I'd be surprised if it didn't anyway. The way they're going, a PC would be an overdone platform capable of doing what it does now, and the next Xbox is likely to be a full-blown HTPC with static specifications and a simple frontend like the 360's home screen. Games are designed for the Xbox HTPC, they sell access to the games on Windows 8+ for regular PC users for a subscription cost, or roll it into Xbox Live's subscription model.

 
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6. Re: etc., etc. Jul 11, 2011, 22:20 Sepharo
 
Beamer wrote on Jul 11, 2011, 22:14:
As for Live moving to phones and PCs, duh. GFWL and WP7 do this already.

I meant that one to the exclusion of a hardware console.
 
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5. Re: etc., etc. Jul 11, 2011, 22:14 Beamer
 
And why can't those be PC/Xbox720 hyrbids? Or "Live" becomes nebulous and is a digital service to use on PCs, tablets, and phones.

They can be, but they'll distinctly be consoles. And they may run a variation of Windows 8 but it can't be Windows 8 until Windows 8 gets a tiny memory footprint. Since cost is the name of the console game you need an OS that takes as little RAM as possible.

As for Live moving to phones and PCs, duh. GFWL and WP7 do this already.
 
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4. Re: etc., etc. Jul 11, 2011, 22:08 Sepharo
 
Beamer wrote on Jul 11, 2011, 22:04:
Maybe Microsoft intends to surprise the world and be the first to leave consoles behind.

No chance in hell. It used to be about owning the living room, now it's about owning the primary computing device. Xbox is the only Microsoft brand with the kind of goodwill needed for that. Lose Xbox and WP7 takes a huge hit.

And why can't those be PC/Xbox720 hyrbids? Or "Live" becomes nebulous and is a digital service to use on PCs, tablets, and phones.

They're already down with their Kinect being for PCs. Why not just release all the dance games and fitness software for PC and other devices.

Or do you expect Google, Apple, and Facebook to be releasing consoles soon?
 
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3. Re: etc., etc. Jul 11, 2011, 22:04 Beamer
 
Maybe Microsoft intends to surprise the world and be the first to leave consoles behind.

No chance in hell. It used to be about owning the living room, now it's about owning the primary computing device. Xbox is the only Microsoft brand with the kind of goodwill needed for that. Lose Xbox and WP7 takes a huge hit.
 
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2. Re: etc., etc. Jul 11, 2011, 22:01 Sepharo
 
It wouldn't surprise me if they wanted out of the hardware business.

Maybe Microsoft intends to surprise the world and be the first to leave consoles behind. Put their full weight behind Windows 8 as a platform for browsing and search, streaming music and video, casual/mobile and PC gaming.

As most have acknowledged, PC as a gaming platform is on the rise thanks to "apps" and Steam. Since the majority of AAA titles are ported to PC anyway, why not drop the costly hardware altogether and recommit to PC gaming.

If not, at least their next console will have Windows 8/9 right?
 
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1. Re: etc., etc. Jul 11, 2011, 21:37 nin
 
Rumor: Play Xbox360 Games on PC - Windows 8.


Interesting rumor. But you know it's not going to be cheap. Not when xboxes are $200 and up. There's no way they'll let you off the hook.

 
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