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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 14, 2011, 13:54 |
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Tumbler wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 13:01:
As is I've just added another box to check before I purchase anything on the pc. Make sure a controller is fully supported.
I'm adding a check box to my buying list:
[ ] DOES CONSOLE GAME SUPPORT SPAGHETTI AND MEATBALLS?
It makes about as much sense as the idiocy you posted.
You really need to filter things into your brain before outputting them with the keyboard. Perhaps we need to get you a controller to use this website. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 14, 2011, 11:11 |
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Why on earth would you want to play FPS games on a PC with a gamepad? So you can get your ass kicked online? Why are you complaining about the field of view on a PC game that you can change?
Why are you complaining at all? You seem to need to go try to do it again, but do it right this time. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 10, 2011, 11:37 |
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CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 10:25:
[a lot of uninteresting words...]
The hilarious stunt where they faked the closure of GOG also comes to mind. [more words...]
FTFY. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 10, 2011, 02:04 |
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| Tumbler...that was the worst thing I have ever read in my life. Are you the same guy who looks at an Xbox 360, turns 360 degrees and walks away? |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 22:58 |
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| I only bought the game retail after they released the patch that removed the DRM |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 19:37 |
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Don't misunderstand, if you want to support gamepads on the PC that's fine. However if you have to prioritize support, keyboard and mouse first, and then gamepads and everything else first.
And now this thread is derailed. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 19:02 |
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I hope more developers drop the pc centered design philoshy of a smaller more detailed interface and no controller support. I'd rather they literally just put the same game on consoles over onto the pc.
You're killing me here.  Your PC gamer cred just dropped below zero.
All PC games, port or not, should have a PC-centric UI and control scheme (M+KB). Gamepad support is all well and good but secondary to PC-centric considerations.
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 16:35 |
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| No, I don't think so. PC is kb/m. A gamepad is great for consoles, and absolutely OPTIONAL for pcs. For a pc game, first of all make the usual kb/m work, after that, if the companies want to invest additional money, add support for a gamepad. But never, ever even think about gamepads while you're working on a title for pcs. Don't even let gamepads influence your brainstorming in preproduction phase. Gamepads are like dlcs - it's nice for some people to have them, but it's just an add-on, no more. |
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| Consoles? I owned two: a Pong clone and an Atari 2600. And that's it. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 15:03 |
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Actually, I agree with Tumbler. If a game is released on console then the PC version should support controllers and have an option to use the same UI. All games should support controllers now, even if most people choose not to use them. However, I also believe games that they should have a PC-centric UI and inputs so as to get the best of both worlds. The PC version should match and surpass the console versions.
The whole point of a PC is that if you want a controller then you can have one... if you want to use a keyboard and mouse you can... and if you want to use something like the Razer Hydra then you can. But I'd rather see the PC leading the way, not simply getting lazy console ports.
Personally I use a controller for games like DiRT3, Virtua Tennis 4, Assassin's Creed, Super Street Fighter IV, NBA 2K11 etc. However, I'd never consider using them for any FPS. And I find it annoying when casual games that would be perfectly suited to controllers don't support them. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 14:56 |
PHJF |
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As is I've just added another box to check before I purchase anything on the pc. Make sure a controller is fully supported.
You are such an unbelievable tool.
Here's how it works, genius. You want to play with your retarded little controller (in an FPS of all places)? You google it. You download any one of a number of apps that maps functions between gamepads/keyboards/mice. And you configure it. Do you know why you do that? Because you're on a PC, a place where you can do shit like that. You're not on some stagnant fucking ancient platform stuck doing exactly what some dumbass developer tells you to do.
And Borderlands is fucking fun as long as you aren't playing it alone. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 13:58 |
Bumpy |
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Tumbler wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 13:01:
I hope more developers drop the pc centered design philoshy
As a PC gamer, this makes me very sad to hear.
If I want a console designed game, I'll buy and play a console (which I do). PC games need to be and stay PC.
Btw, did not like, buy or play Borderlands, hated the cartoony graphic design.
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 13:41 |
MoreLuckThanSkill |
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Tumbler wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 13:01:
As is I've just added another box to check before I purchase anything on the pc. Make sure a controller is fully supported.
Each to his own, but statements like this are very depressing for the future of PC gaming, in my opinion. 
Sacrilege, using a controller (for non Tekken/MK/SF style fighting games) on a PC.
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 13:01 |
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And to be honest I don't care or feel for them. I have some definite angst over the console design crap they injected into TW2.
This makes me feel very good about buying this game on the PC. During the steam sale I've bought 4 games that I was curious to play and 2 of the 4 simply don't support a controller. Can't navigate the interface, can't get my money back. (CoD4 & BFBC2) Nevermind that the entire game of bfbc2 is too small for me to enjoy sitting in a chair. (viewable perspective assumes you'll be much closer to the monitor) The other 2 games were borderlands and darksiders. I'm assuming darksiders is heavily designed for a console...otherwise it's 3/4! I paid $10 for CoD4 and I feel ripped off. BFBC2 at $5 is ok to be a complete waste. $5 is a rental price for me.
I hope more developers drop the pc centered design philoshy of a smaller more detailed interface and no controller support. I'd rather they literally just put the same game on consoles over onto the pc. If they also build in support to change the interface to be more pc centric that is fine.
As is I've just added another box to check before I purchase anything on the pc. Make sure a controller is fully supported.
And I'm curious what did you think of borderlands? That game seems to be the exact same as what I saw on the console, everything controls identically. I'm wondering if that was acceptable? |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 12:53 |
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CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 10:25:
Acleacius wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 09:54:
Actually could be an important case, a developer will be telling the truth about DRM (e.g. it's bad and it hurts customers ability to play the game) in court. Publicly open and available to the public to hear.
Could be really bad and messy for all publishers. So count me in the backlash. 
Have we been hitting the pipe again? I hope that everyone remembers that CDP did not remove the DRM from the retail version because DRM is "teh suck" or because it hurts honest customers but because they were too lazy and incompetent to fix the issues with their launcher and the DRM. So instead of fixing shit they just removed the DRM wholesale.
Apparently they did so without getting approval from Namco Bandai and were hoping to get away with it.
I very much doubt that the contract is ambiguous in that regard since this is about standard contractual stuff so CDP will very likely lose this case and rightfully so if they can't read.
I'm getting strong vibes here that they generally need to improve on their professional conduct and business relationships. The whole mystery around the cancellation of the console version of the first Witcher game was pretty fishy as well with conflicting statements from CDP and the guys who were working on the port. It can hardly be a coincidence that they get in trouble with every one of their releases.
Also seemed kind of strange when one of their lead devs left the team shortly after TW2 was released, supposedly because of "burn-out". Do you leave right after the successful launch of a major AAA title instead of reaping the rewards if everything is in order at the company? I don't think so...
The unfunny stunt where they faked the closure of GOG also comes to mind. It was in poor taste and just plain dumb and unoriginal. Any four year old has a better business sense than these guys.
It will bite them majorly in the ass one day if they don't get more professional.
CJ_Parker - Real men don't need to back up their claims, they just need to make'em! |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 12:09 |
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Rattlehead wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 12:07:
And to be honest I don't care or feel for them. I have some definite angst over the console design crap they injected into TW2. So let me get this straight. You want them to be sued over a quarrel you have with the game that's totally unrelated to the lawsuit at hand? You basically want them to lose despite giving what all gamers what, DRM free games?
That's kind of pushing the reasons to spite someone, don't you think? You're a little brat, who doesn't deserve to play any game at all. I also dislike some of the console design decisions in the game as well. And while I am disappointed, I won't go as far as to wish them ill will or hope bad things will happen to them. Even if I did, wishful thinking doesn't actually do anything. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 12:07 |
Rattlehead |
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And to be honest I don't care or feel for them. I have some definite angst over the console design crap they injected into TW2. So let me get this straight. You want them to be sued over a quarrel you have with the game that's totally unrelated to the lawsuit at hand? You basically want them to lose despite giving what all gamers what, DRM free games?
That's kind of pushing the reasons to spite someone, don't you think? You're a little brat, who doesn't deserve to play any game at all. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 12:07 |
Overon |
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CJ_Parker wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 10:25:
Acleacius wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 09:54:
Actually could be an important case, a developer will be telling the truth about DRM (e.g. it's bad and it hurts customers ability to play the game) in court. Publicly open and available to the public to hear.
Could be really bad and messy for all publishers. So count me in the backlash.
Have we been hitting the pipe again? I hope that everyone remembers that CDP did not remove the DRM from the retail version because DRM is "teh suck" or because it hurts honest customers but because they were too lazy and incompetent to fix the issues with their launcher and the DRM. So instead of fixing shit they just removed the DRM wholesale.
Apparently they did so without getting approval from Namco Bandai and were hoping to get away with it.
I very much doubt that the contract is ambiguous in that regard since this is about standard contractual stuff so CDP will very likely lose this case and rightfully so if they can't read.
I'm getting strong vibes here that they generally need to improve on their professional conduct and business relationships. The whole mystery around the cancellation of the console version of the first Witcher game was pretty fishy as well with conflicting statements from CDP and the guys who were working on the port. It can hardly be a coincidence that they get in trouble with every one of their releases.
Also seemed kind of strange when one of their lead devs left the team shortly after TW2 was released, supposedly because of "burn-out". Do you leave right after the successful launch of a major AAA title instead of reaping the rewards if everything is in order at the company? I don't think so...
The unfunny stunt where they faked the closure of GOG also comes to mind. It was in poor taste and just plain dumb and unoriginal. Any four year old has a better business sense than these guys.
It will bite them majorly in the ass one day if they don't get more professional.
CJ_Parker you make a lot of claims, do you have any links to back them up or the like? Otherwise you are just speculating. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 11:42 |
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| I hope it goes well for CDP. I'm unashamedly biased in this case - CD Projekt is a champion of gamers rights and Namco is one of the many soulless, clueless publishers that don't give a damn about its customers, only its bottom line. And they're too stupid to realize that removing the DRM helps that bottom line. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 10:30 |
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Actually could be an important case, a developer will be telling the truth about DRM (e.g. it's bad and it hurts customers ability to play the game) in court. Publicly open and available to the public to hear.
Where on earth did you get that idea? What will be happening is a developer will be talking about DRM as it relates to the contract they signed in court. This is a contract dispute, nothing more. This has nothing to do with them championing DRM removal, or how DRM affects sales, or anything of that nature at all.
Namco thinks the contract says X. CD Projekt thinks it says Y. If it makes it to court (settlement out of court is more likely), a court will determine what the contract actually says. And that'll be the end of it. |
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Re: CD Projekt RED Sued for Removing The Witcher 2 DRM |
Jul 9, 2011, 10:25 |
CJ_Parker |
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Acleacius wrote on Jul 9, 2011, 09:54:
Actually could be an important case, a developer will be telling the truth about DRM (e.g. it's bad and it hurts customers ability to play the game) in court. Publicly open and available to the public to hear.
Could be really bad and messy for all publishers. So count me in the backlash.
Have we been hitting the pipe again? I hope that everyone remembers that CDP did not remove the DRM from the retail version because DRM is "teh suck" or because it hurts honest customers but because they were too lazy and incompetent to fix the issues with their launcher and the DRM. So instead of fixing shit they just removed the DRM wholesale.
Apparently they did so without getting approval from Namco Bandai and were hoping to get away with it.
I very much doubt that the contract is ambiguous in that regard since this is about standard contractual stuff so CDP will very likely lose this case and rightfully so if they can't read.
I'm getting strong vibes here that they generally need to improve on their professional conduct and business relationships. The whole mystery around the cancellation of the console version of the first Witcher game was pretty fishy as well with conflicting statements from CDP and the guys who were working on the port. It can hardly be a coincidence that they get in trouble with every one of their releases.
Also seemed kind of strange when one of their lead devs left the team shortly after TW2 was released, supposedly because of "burn-out". Do you leave right after the successful launch of a major AAA title instead of reaping the rewards if everything is in order at the company? I don't think so...
The unfunny stunt where they faked the closure of GOG also comes to mind. It was in poor taste and just plain dumb and unoriginal. Any four year old has a better business sense than these guys.
It will bite them majorly in the ass one day if they don't get more professional.
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