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Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit

Square Enix is suing a group of 15 "Italian nationals" for leaking a preview build of Deus Ex: Human Revolution to torrent sites a couple of months ago, reports Kotaku. Word is: "As part of court filings issued last month in Washington, Square Enix accuse the fifteen of logging into the servers where the demo was hosted using the access information of an Italian games magazine (GMC), where they found the preview build of the game, copied it and uploaded it onto the internet."

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33. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 16:16 SectorEffector
 
Beamer wrote on Jul 6, 2011, 15:15:
The leak isn't a complete build of the game or anything either, far from it.

Oh. That's different.
Leaks in which you can complete, even if buggy, typically damage sales. Yes, it raises pre-release hype, but much of that hype goes into the leaked version and not a paid version.

Let's be honest here - if the game is as good as all the people playing the leak say then it would have received the same positive word of mouth the week of launch that it did the week of leak.

I call it guerilla marketing of a demo, without the developers go ahead.

I'm completely buying this game after I messed with that build.

Beamer, some people are actually still arguing DNF is "one of the funnest games I've played in awhile" <-- clearly delusional and hopefully that reviewer will never ship any game.

and I see

"I don't have any of the problems other Brink users seem to be having" <-- nuts.



Word of mouth has been depreciated and nothing compares to me being able to play it first. Whether it be a Demo or a Leak.

Half Life 2 Leak only made me more excited for the retail game.

but... I am a minority though, or am I?

 
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32. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:51 Beamer
 
No, no, I agree. The second part of my post meant full leaks, which are usually what set people off.
I hadn't followed this leak at all, just a few posts by people here that had it and were discussing how much time they'd put in and how wonderful it was, and someone claiming it was a review build, so I'd thought it was the full yet unfinished version.

I see I was wrong, it was a preview build and, as you said, about 10%.
 
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31. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:46 Hump
 
If you're company security is such that its been leaked to the net, dont blame the uploaders, blame yourselves.  
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30. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:43 Verno
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for punishing the leakers because the act itself is criminal and could have caused damage if it were a bad game. Luckily it's a great game that didn't have a demo so this did a lot of good instead. That's probably why Square is going after them halfheartedly. They have to do something because of the principle and a responsibility to their shareholders but it doesn't seem like they're pulling out all the stops to me.  
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29. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:39 Beamer
 
It's not is all I was saying, its enough to whet the appetite is all

Agreed. I'd been unaware of that. I've paid zero attention.
 
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28. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:27 Verno
 
Beamer wrote on Jul 6, 2011, 15:15:
Oh. That's different.
Leaks in which you can complete, even if buggy, typically damage sales. Yes, it raises pre-release hype, but much of that hype goes into the leaked version and not a paid version.

Let's be honest here - if the game is as good as all the people playing the leak say then it would have received the same positive word of mouth the week of launch that it did the week of leak.

You were the one who implied that people having played through the leak wouldn't bother playing the full game as if it was a full experience or something. It's not is all I was saying, its enough to whet the appetite is all. If people didn't like Deus Ex before then this won't change their mind and if they did like it but were worried then it will just convince them to preorder or buy it shortly after release.

The forums on this site are not indicative of the gaming population as a whole...
In other words, I'm sure plenty of people will NOT buy the game based on playing the leaked version...

Says you, I don't see any evidence to support that. I'm sure this forum (like many others) is a decent sampling pool of a more general gaming population. Many interest groups and genre affectations are represented here, it's not just old PC guys whose last console was an SNES or something.

Either way, you haven't played it so you don't really understand. The only "bad" part of the game is the state of the build itself but the people seeking it out have the skill and mindset to understand that anyway. If this site doesn't represent the general population then there's no need to worry because the general population probably won't ever see the leak then.
 
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27. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:17 Creston
 
nin wrote on Jul 6, 2011, 14:07:
Also, you don't have to type your name after every post, it's already in the upper right hand corner, you look like a jackass when you do it.


Oh look, Zeph lost his account info and had to reregister.


Sadly for him, the ignore feature follows him everywhere he drools.

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26. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:16 Alamar
 
Verno wrote on Jul 6, 2011, 15:10:
In this scenario you're not going to find any support around here Beamer, the leak did more good than harm which is further backed up by SE effectively embracing it as a lucky win. Word on the leak is overwhelmingly positive. The leak isn't a complete build of the game or anything either, far from it. I bet their preorder rate shot through the roof.

That being said, it doesn't mean the people responsible shouldn't be punished though, what they did was criminal and if the game had been bad it surely would have been financially damaging.

The forums on this site are not indicative of the gaming population as a whole...

In other words, I'm sure plenty of people will NOT buy the game based on playing the leaked version...

As for the previous comment... Plenty of pirates pay $50 for the 'real deal' when it hits shelves, and this isn't quite the same as your comment, since the 'leak' doesn't include the full game... I assume, based on the whole 'introductory level(s)' comments.

I haven't tried it myself... I liked Deus Ex somewhat, but felt it didn't live up to the hype, so I have no expectations either way for this one... If there's a demo, or even a 'demo', I may try it, but I may not...

-Alamar

Edit: no->not And by 'previous' post, I meant previous to the one I quoted ; )
 
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25. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:15 Beamer
 
The leak isn't a complete build of the game or anything either, far from it.

Oh. That's different.
Leaks in which you can complete, even if buggy, typically damage sales. Yes, it raises pre-release hype, but much of that hype goes into the leaked version and not a paid version.

Let's be honest here - if the game is as good as all the people playing the leak say then it would have received the same positive word of mouth the week of launch that it did the week of leak.
 
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24. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:14 LittleMe
 
Beamer wrote on Jul 6, 2011, 15:06:
Because, you know, that leak did no harm. You'll all gladly pay the $50 for a game you've already completed.

It wasn't the full game. Only about 1/10th of it, or about the size of a proper demo.

 
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23. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:12 LittleMe
 
What I want to know is if Square Enix had their pinky to their lower lip when making this decision.

 
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22. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:10 Verno
 
In this scenario you're not going to find any support around here Beamer, the leak did more good than harm which is further backed up by SE effectively embracing it as a lucky win. Word on the leak is overwhelmingly positive. The leak isn't a complete build of the game or anything either, far from it. I bet their preorder rate shot through the roof.

That being said, it doesn't mean the people responsible shouldn't be punished though, what they did was criminal and if the game had been bad it surely would have been financially damaging.
 
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21. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 15:06 Beamer
 
Based upon the posts in this thread I assume everyone here that has downloaded and completed the leak is now planning to run out and purchase the game at the exact same time that they would have had the game come out with glowing reviews and great word-of-mouth from day one purchasers.

Because, you know, that leak did no harm. You'll all gladly pay the $50 for a game you've already completed.
 
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20. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 14:44 Verno
 
Don't put your shit on public servers. Putting it on steam and sending out user names and passwords to ppl is still putting it on public servers.

You might want to reconnect yourself to reality at some point, someone using press credentials to access private files isn't the same as "public hosting". That's like saying your gmail is publicly hosted when I steal your login/pass and start posting embarrassing emails to reddit.
 
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19. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 14:35 Tanto Edge
 
This is ridiculous.
This leak has been floating around for quite a while now and it has done nothing but prove that SquEnix isn't fornicating the canine.
If they were smart, they'd drop the suit to prevent the brew of any bad blood.
 
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18. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 14:26 Tumbler
 
Don't put your shit on public servers. Putting it on steam and sending out user names and passwords to ppl is still putting it on public servers.

This is why you hear about companies inviting press to events at hotels and such to play the game. You cannot control what happens to your content once you let it out into the wild. (IE put it on a computer connected to the internet)
 
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17. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 14:07 nin
 
Also, you don't have to type your name after every post, it's already in the upper right hand corner, you look like a jackass when you do it.


Oh look, Zeph lost his account info and had to reregister.

 
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16. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 14:06 eRe4s3r
 
How is a demo not a early build that doesn't represent the final game as a whole  
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15. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 14:01 Rattlehead
 
Suing them? They should be fucking THANKING them.

That leaked build has done more to build positive word of mouth about this game than all the 9 billion previews combined.

Idiots.

Creston

Have you ever thought of the fact that a company doesn't want an early build of the game available to the public that doesn't represent the final game as a whole.

Also, you don't have to type your name after every post, it's already in the upper right hand corner, you look like a jackass when you do it.


 
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14. Re: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Leak Lawsuit Jul 6, 2011, 13:15 Verno
 
Acleacius wrote on Jul 6, 2011, 12:19:
Sure you would be correct, if I was born yesterday and didn't have any idea of the history of this franchise.

"This is an example" <---- That make it clearer for you?

Well uhhh the game is actually really good so relax I guess? I don't really care two whits about the lawsuit, this is the first decent follow up we've seen to Deus Ex. Go download the leak if you don't want to believe other people, you can play the intro to the game. It's Deus Ex man.
 
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