Send News. Want a reply? Read this. More in the FAQ.   News Forum - All Forums - Mobile - PDA - RSS Headlines  RSS Headlines   Twitter  Twitter
Customize
User Settings
Styles:
LAN Parties
Upcoming one-time events:

Regularly scheduled events

On The Streaming Infringement Bill

The Word of Notch has a post about Bill S.978, which is currently being considered by the U.S. Senate: "to amend the criminal penalty provision for criminal infringement of a copyright, and for other purposes." The bill: "Makes unauthorized web streaming of copyrighted content a felony with a possible penalty of up to 5 years in prison. Illegal streaming of copyrighted content is defined in the bill as an offense that 'consists of 10 or more public performances by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copyrighted works' and has a total economic value, either to the copyright holder or the infringer, of at least $2,500." This is opposed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, but has the support of AFTRA, SAG, MPAA, RIAA, and other copyright-lovers. As Notch notes, this has raised concerns that it could criminalize the simple act of uploading a gameplay video, and while it's hard to imagine such fair use scenarios becoming illegal, he offers the straightforward way Mojang would handle it should such a law come to pass:

If the bill passes, I suspect many game companies (including us) will add a special clause to the TOS specifically to allow posting videos of their games. A huge part of why Minecraft has grown so fast is the YouTube community.

View
41 Replies. 3 pages. Viewing page 1.
< Newer [ 1 2 3 ] Older >

41. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 5, 2011, 01:19 Dev
 
StingingVelvet wrote on Jul 5, 2011, 00:05:
ViRGE wrote on Jul 3, 2011, 13:43:
AnointedSword wrote on Jul 3, 2011, 13:38:
Read the law closely and let your brains catch up. Your video games will be safe.
Exactly. Every time I see this bill mentioned followed by unfounded panicking, my head implodes just a bit.

It's not about going after people streaming games, it's about people streaming TV shows and movies (note the sponsors). The courts often do not recognize streaming as being downloading, so traditional laws against the downloading of copyrighted material have not been applicable to streaming. This closes that loophole.

The idea that it's going to be applied to game streaming is ridiculous. If there was a problem, companies would already be issuing DMCA takedowns against such videos on YouTube, which they aren't. That said, adding a clause to the ToS does help to resolve any ambiguity.

Like many things however it's not the specific intent of the bill which is scary, but the wider ramifications that could result.

Yeah. No one would have predicted that DMCA applied to printer cartridges, or apply to tape backup machines, or some of the other weird things its been stretched to.
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
40. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 5, 2011, 00:05 StingingVelvet
 
ViRGE wrote on Jul 3, 2011, 13:43:
AnointedSword wrote on Jul 3, 2011, 13:38:
Read the law closely and let your brains catch up. Your video games will be safe.
Exactly. Every time I see this bill mentioned followed by unfounded panicking, my head implodes just a bit.

It's not about going after people streaming games, it's about people streaming TV shows and movies (note the sponsors). The courts often do not recognize streaming as being downloading, so traditional laws against the downloading of copyrighted material have not been applicable to streaming. This closes that loophole.

The idea that it's going to be applied to game streaming is ridiculous. If there was a problem, companies would already be issuing DMCA takedowns against such videos on YouTube, which they aren't. That said, adding a clause to the ToS does help to resolve any ambiguity.

Like many things however it's not the specific intent of the bill which is scary, but the wider ramifications that could result.
 
Avatar 54622
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
39. Re: we must repeat Jul 4, 2011, 15:04 sorted
 
space captain wrote on Jul 4, 2011, 11:53:
the travel which has built my career has been necessarily multi-dimensional, hyper-dimensional, meta-temporal, so forth and so on

if your mind is not open and elastic, it will snap like a twig under such duress

espionage requires disguise, and hiding in plain sight is indeed the ultimate mask... a requisite to ensure the survival of life in the face of its ignorant spite for itself

once you can see suicide and genocide on the same coin, then we can talk about subspace signals...

oh my captain, oh my SPACE! captain!
 
Avatar 22541
 
"You've heard about the pyramids? This is like the pyramids times ten."
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
38. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 4, 2011, 12:29 Hump
 
This will change no one's behavior. It will simply give the MPAA/RIAA another questionable revenue stream that uses courts as their collectors and rewards them for not changing their business models to come in line with the rest of the 21st century.  
Avatar 10137
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Both the “left” and the “right” pretend they have the answer, but they are mere flippers on the same thalidomide baby, and the truth is that neither side has a clue."

- Jim Goad
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
37. we must repeat Jul 4, 2011, 11:53 space captain
 
the travel which has built my career has been necessarily multi-dimensional, hyper-dimensional, meta-temporal, so forth and so on

if your mind is not open and elastic, it will snap like a twig under such duress

espionage requires disguise, and hiding in plain sight is indeed the ultimate mask... a requisite to ensure the survival of life in the face of its ignorant spite for itself

once you can see suicide and genocide on the same coin, then we can talk about subspace signals...
 
Go forth, and kill!
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
36. Re: are we not men? Jul 4, 2011, 10:48 Wolfen
 
InBlack wrote on Jul 4, 2011, 10:37:
I can never quite work out if Space Captain is being sarcastic or deadly serious. Or just high on LSD.

Communism cant be as bad as what we have now, can it?

Actually, I think what he is implying this time is "Ignorance is bliss".
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
35. Re: are we not men? Jul 4, 2011, 10:37 InBlack
 
I can never quite work out if Space Captain is being sarcastic or deadly serious. Or just high on LSD.

Communism cant be as bad as what we have now, can it?
 
Avatar 46994
 
I have a nifty blue line!
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
34. are we not men? Jul 4, 2011, 10:04 space captain
 
you know that nobody knows anything, right? they let the govt rule their minds, and they let their minds rule their potential... shit, they get off on it! their abdication of any responsibility for their own life is like an orgasmic hypnosis  
Go forth, and kill!
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
33. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 4, 2011, 09:45 Dev
 
kookaveetsa wrote on Jul 3, 2011, 21:48:
There's too many inconsistencies in this so called considered bill, it'll never pass.
You know they pass these things without ever reading them, right?
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
32. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 4, 2011, 05:11 InBlack
 
I think they should add an ammendment to the bill that states, "for every illegal upload one of the culprit's fingers/digits shal be removed" just to make the law more "american".

This comment was edited on Jul 4, 2011, 08:14.
 
Avatar 46994
 
I have a nifty blue line!
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
31. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 23:25 dubfanatic
 
kookaveetsa wrote on Jul 3, 2011, 21:48:
There's too many inconsistencies in this so called considered bill, it'll never pass.

It sounds like you are under the impression that the US legislature considers that a priority. This is incorrect. The fact that this corporate-backed bill is getting fast tracked to the Senate floor while bills that could solve real problems languish in committee should show you where their priorities really lie.
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
30. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 21:48 kookaveetsa
 
There's too many inconsistencies in this so called considered bill, it'll never pass.  
Avatar 38109
 
"An it harm none, do what thou wilt"
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
29. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 20:30 MisterBenn
 
I wonder whether "unsympathetic" displays of impending games will be allowed to remain on YouTube after this law. Some games get the piss taken out of them mercilessly on YogTrailers for example, I wonder whether things like this could end up being pulled...

http://www.youtube.com/user/yogscast2#p/u/25/MyrlevOwl2Y

With the investment in marketing and the information lockdown that happens before a game's release, I always thought that companies must hate that stuff being out there. Good viewing though!
 
Avatar 56105
 
Playing: Path of Exile, Age of Wonders III
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
28. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 20:24 space captain
 
cronik wrote on Jul 3, 2011, 19:44:
The peasants better get used to the fact they don't have rights, they have owners!

as long as the slaves think that they are the owners, it all works out perfectly fine because they just stay snug as a bug in a rug that way
 
Go forth, and kill!
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
27. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 20:08 Dev
 
Its not like the senate has anything better to do I guess... such as the budget, or the wars, or anything.

Umbragen wrote on Jul 3, 2011, 19:58:
Wait till the turn over enforcement to the (presumed) injured parties, they'll have to invent new words to describe and justify that mess. Just don't doubt that that day is coming.
MPAA/RIAA/**AA already does raids, no need to wait.
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
26. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 19:58 Umbragen
 
Wait till the turn over enforcement to the (presumed) injured parties, they'll have to invent new words to describe and justify that mess. Just don't doubt that that day is coming.  
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
25. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 19:44 cronik
 
The peasants better get used to the fact they don't have rights, they have owners!  
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
24. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 19:37 Jackplug
 
This doesn't bother me in the slightest, ok I don't live in the US, but the only thing that does bothers me is what follows this if it passes. What other laws get passed to uphold this one, to make this one stand tall, that is what scares me.

Look at us in the UK, jeez we've got a dandy of a copyright law coming out and that will piss a lot of ppl off and to think these laws is how they will kill off piracy...
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
23. removed Jul 3, 2011, 19:24 Marvin T. Martian
 
* REMOVED *
This comment was deleted on Jul 4, 2011, 13:46.
 
Avatar 1746
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
22. Re: On The Streaming Infringement Bill Jul 3, 2011, 19:23 tuddies
 
more GAY legislation by a country too concerned with perpetual war, private profit and the public subsidy of both!

Give these morons a 365 day vacation, for America's sake! For all our sakes!
 
Reply Quote Edit Delete Report
 
41 Replies. 3 pages. Viewing page 1.
< Newer [ 1 2 3 ] Older >


footer

Blue's News logo