bobbyric wrote on Jun 22, 2011, 16:20:
So how do interiors improve the game, exactly?

My Eve experience was this:

"Hi I'm a newbie, I need help, why does everyone have a bigger ship?"

"Hi newbie, welcome to our corp, here's a free ship and some mining lasers, go mine some ore and we'll help you get a bigger ship, that's how this game works."

3 days later

"I just realized how much ore it takes to build a bigger ship, I'm going to be afk mining for another week, WTF?"

"Yeah awesome game huh?"

/quit

Slashman wrote on Jun 22, 2011, 17:46:
The exaggeration in this thread about EVE is laughable.

Apparently if an MMO doesn't hold your hand and tell you where the 'fun' is, people are incapable of figuring it out for themselves.

I played EVE for 2 years. Was only ever in small corps apart from a brief foray into 0 sec space. And I NEVER got into the excel aspects that people keep insisting are all EVE is about.

I mined a bit, discovered profitable NPC trade-routes, hunted pirates(the human kind), did stuff with my corp mates, allied with some actual pirate corps, did NPC missions, challenged myself by making trade runs through low-sec areas, even managed to band together with some folks to blockade a low sec system and force all the pirates out while folks from my corp mined.

Most importantly I found a great group of people through global channels who were always around to talk to, ask advice and help from and laugh with.

I'm sorry if having a little patience and learning how to do things is anathema to folks these days. But if all EVE really was, was excel in space...it wouldn't be one of the most successful MMOs out there. You CAN play it at that level...but there is absolutely no need to if you don't want to.

Techie714 © wrote on Jun 22, 2011, 13:15:
I've really tried getting into this game at least three times, but I just cant. I find it so boring. The graphics are great & I know it's a very cool game but just not for me.

EX: You could be a god at making money. Have 500 billion Isk. But you have to wait a month or more for your training to complete on that fancy new ship you could build 5 of at the drop of a hat. So what do you do for that month? Make more money you can not really use? But then again I guess this is why everyone calls this game a 'Excel MMO'.

Techie714 © wrote on Jun 22, 2011, 13:15:
I've really tried getting into this game at least three times, but I just cant. I find it so boring. The graphics are great & I know it's a very cool game but just not for me.

Tumbler wrote on Jun 22, 2011, 12:10:
Cool stuff...but they need to make someway to keep training yours skills up without paying. I don't feel like the game is worth it to pay a monthly fee when you are simply logging in to change skills. When you decide you want to try something there are often a variety of skills you'll need before you can do this and you'll have to spend a few weeks getting those in order. During that time you can run missions and earn isk which you'll need anyway but with many skills you're simply waiting to get hte most out of that so you just sit idle in a station while that training completes. Tech 2 Drones come to mind, you need an excessive amount of training to use those effectively and it's literally weeks. I ran missions a lot while those trained up but that process never ends. After getting my carrier training started I needed a handful of other skills that were going to take weeks to complete before I could hope to use hte carrier effectively. The wait is not the problem. Paying to wait is the problem. I think they should make it possible to put your pilot onto "hold" for a month or so and during that time you can not undock or pilot a ship. You're stuck in that station and you can login and train. Maybe buy/sell on the market too? This was the thing that made me cancel. I couldn't stomach the payment to sit there and switch skills for a month. Once you reach a certain point in the game training the stuff you want is going to take weeks. (for each skill)

At the current going rate, using the existing currency (ISK) and transferring it to this new currency (PLEX), a skirt for your avatar costs USD$20. A blouse is $25. A space monocle costs $68. As Massively points out, many of the items on sale are going for more than their real-world counterparts would in a store, making it only more tragic.