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Crysis 2 Steam Crisis, Origin Exclusivity Planned?

This Crysis 2 Product Page on EA.com has a link to the game on Origin using a "buy now" button that says "only on Origin." In keeping with that there is a discussion on the Steam Users' Forums about how the first-person shooter sequel is no longer available on Valve's online service. On the other hand, as noted in sflufan's NeoGAF post, as of this writing the game is still for digital distribution on Amazon, Direct2Drive, GamersGate, and Impulse, so we'll have to keep an eye on them. It is also noted that Alice: Madness Returns is likewise not available on Steam, but is on other services, so perhaps there's some sort of Steam/Origins turf war brewing. Thanks nin via Kotaku.

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95. Re: Crysis 2 Steam Crisis, Origin Exclusivity Planned? Jun 15, 2011, 12:27 Verno
 
First of all, it's not a stretch. It only seems so to you because you haven't been following EA store deals. Go to any deals site like Slick Deals or Tech Bargains and search for EA store, if you actually want to know the facts.

I don't see any actual facts in your comments first of all and secondly I'm using it in a comparative context. Valve has been running Steam deals for literally years. I haven't seen EA Store deals going anywhere near back that far. You also ignore the fact that they are largely doing it to compete but removing competitors from the market will affect prices. If you like those EA deals then it makes no sense to support this kind of decision.

Second, I don't see why they won't continue these deals. They have a business to run and they want to succeed too.

There is little incentive to run deals as you decrease competition from a publishers point of view. A retailer wants to clear out "inventory", a publisher doesn't care about that. The publisher wants to keep the price as high as possible for as long as possible, that's a pretty basic precept of business in the gaming industry. The trouble is when a publisher also becomes a distribution point, there is a conflict of interest. What's best for the publisher isn't always what is best for the consumer. Put bluntly I don't care about maintaining EAs profit margin on their financial statements, I care about getting the best deal in terms of feature, price and performance for my money.

Valve has a monstrous hold on the entire DD channel on PC. Why don't you talk about their practice of putting all sorts of restrictions in Steamworks games and attach their store, whether the game is actually bought at DD, Impulse or Gamer's Gate.

The truth comes out, finally. This sort of punitive response to Valve's success is what is really going on here. They built the DD business and have shown a remarkable business acumen when it comes to finding reasonable compromises with consumer interests while structuring sales offerings. They deserve their success quite frankly. I'm not sure I agree with the assessment that their Steamworks structure is intended as anti-competitive but I do think they could come up with a reasonable alternative for SKUs offered through other stores. It's something I hope they work on.

Valve may be the largest stakeholder in DD but it hasn't stopped competition at all. They have many competitors in the DD space now, I can think of five off the top of my head and I'm sure there are more. Whether they engage in anti-competitive practices or not is debatable, I think its more accurate to say that they build their own products around their platform. The trouble is that EA isn't doing that, they aren't really tying features to Origin, they are just literally saying "you can't have this game because you make a lot of money". It's well within their business rights but its harmful to consumer choice. The conflict of interest with them also being a publisher of a massive portfolio of titles virtually guarantees this scenario happening whenever they encounter actual competition.

No one is saying that Valve are the saints of gaming. EA is a large company with a lot of resources at its disposal and some very talented employees. They could do wonderful things with Origin if they actually tried. This kind of pointless exclusion shows a business decision with no creative influence. It would be acceptable if it had some tertiary benefit for both parties but it doesn't really do anything for the consumer, in fact it removes choice which is never a good thing in the long run.

This is an idiotic excuse, and isn't true either.

If you're going to be immature you can talk to yourself man, it's no skin off my back. We were having a pretty reasonable discussion up to that point.

This comment was edited on Jun 15, 2011, 12:43.
 
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