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25. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 12, 2011, 00:42 DoomPlague
 
Except relatively few people will have both a PS3 and PSV. The feature will not only be barely used but will also not be as simple (wouldnt the PSV have to be synced somehow? How long will it take to boot up and select "play ps3 game"). Simplicity always wins. It's why the Wii sold 100+ million and why the DS and Gameboys smashed their competition.

Not to mention the fact that the PSV would make a terrible controller because of what is easily the worst stick placement I've ever seen.

What Nintendo did wrong with the WiiU is how they presented it. People are confused and many are spouting incorrect information. They said its only one screen controller but they've shown up to 5 players using different controllers (undoubtedly there will be some form of classic controller to use with the thing). And they're at least looking into the idea of having more than one touchscreen controller. But hey, lets all react to a single, unsubstantiated headline!
 
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24. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 20:36 Jensen
 
Bumpy wrote on Jun 10, 2011, 15:14:
Thing I'm thinking....will MS and Sony now rethink their next systems and also include a touch screen with their controller?
Sony doesn't have to copy Nintendo's hardware this time. I'm sure the Vita interfacing with the PS3 can do anything the WiiUPad can do, and do it better, with minor differences.

The Wii U is a big 3DS, sans 3D (HDS?)
 
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23. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 19:31 Fausticle
 
Wow, didn't see that one coming. That's a 'no sale' for me I guess.  
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22. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 17:30 nin
 
Hopefully the majority of games won't make essential use of the controller screen. Because doing so would preclude the other touted feature of the controller; the ability to transfer the entire game to the screen if the TV is in use.

I would guess games would have several different configurations that you could switch to on the fly. Something like tv + controller, controller only, etc...

The problem there is it would mean less straight ports from other consoles, and devs might have to have a dedicated Wii U team. And if games don't sell as well on the Wii U, guess which version gets dropped first?

 
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21. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 17:07 entr0py
 
Silicon Avatar wrote on Jun 10, 2011, 15:38:
All I really wanted was a Wii HD. Cheaper would have been better. Wii U looks like something I'll wait on for a couple of years - or just skip. Waggle controls were a novelty. I didn't want them again and I don't really care about having to divide my attention between two screens either.

Hopefully the majority of games won't make essential use of the controller screen. Because doing so would preclude the other touted feature of the controller; the ability to transfer the entire game to the screen if the TV is in use.

Like, with Zelda it seems you've just got a quick inventory selection on the screen, nothing that couldn't be handled through a separate menu easily.
 
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20. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 16:40 reisub
 
If you could hold it with one hand and use the touchscreen as a trackpad it could work well for FPSs. Better than an analogue stick anyway.  
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19. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 15:38 Silicon Avatar
 
All I really wanted was a Wii HD. Cheaper would have been better. Wii U looks like something I'll wait on for a couple of years - or just skip. Waggle controls were a novelty. I didn't want them again and I don't really care about having to divide my attention between two screens either.

 
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18. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 15:19 WyldKat
 
Nintendo fanboys are already saying it's okay, that it won't effect the systems sales at all because.... "you can just pass around the controller". XD  
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17. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 15:14 Bumpy
 
Thing I'm thinking....will MS and Sony now rethink their next systems and also include a touch screen with their controller?

It would certainly open up lots of different gameplay design options.
 
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16. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 15:13 Creston
 
nin wrote on Jun 10, 2011, 11:47:
Wii U limited to one controller.

Ah, there's that other shoe! I knew it was around here somewhere.

Shouldn't they just call it the Mii then?

Creston
 
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15. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 15:09 Verno
 
Tom wrote on Jun 10, 2011, 14:44:
They could've just launched this as the Wii 2 / Wii HD with no special controller and a lower price and everyone would've been happy...

Yeah that's exactly what a lot of people wanted. They didn't need to "shake things up" again, they pioneered motion control so the least they could do is see it through to some useful product applications. Every console needs a gimmick apparently which is really confusing because they are supposed to be all about lowering barriers of entry but continually shaking up input controls and introducing strange new features has the opposite effect.
 
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14. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 14:48 MindStalkerReturned
 
Its doubtful they would be able to get enough processing power for 4 screens in there, but who knows, if they do it will be sweet.

//Idea, make it so that your WiiU controller is more like a gameboy, but it has to be at Some WiiU console machine to do the heavy processor lifting. Put some flash memory in the WiiU controller, so you can store virtual games and saves, and take them with you to your friends house for multiplayer games. A Lan party in a box..
 
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13. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 14:44 Tom
 
They could've just launched this as the Wii 2 / Wii HD with no special controller and a lower price and everyone would've been happy...  
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12. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 13:01 Prez
 
Nintendo baffled by share price slide

Frankly I'm baffled that they would be baffled at this.
 
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11. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 12:52 WyldKat
 
LOL... just... lol...

It's the Virtual Boy all over again! Albeit at least this time it has nice graphics, although that remains to be seen seeing as how Nintendo enjoyed showing off PC demos during E3...

http://i.imgur.com/iZOse.jpg
 
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10. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 12:46 Verno
 
You linking some early press images doesn't mean he's wrong. Nintendo themselves even said that in a linked interview earlier, it's being considered. It is quite early, this system isn't arriving at Christmas or something.  
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9. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 12:43 nin
 

And another...

 
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8. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 12:41 nin
 
Notice anything yet?

 
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7. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 12:39 Verno
 
It's too early to be finalized one way or the other. If there is demand there for the feature they will probably try. Frankly I'll be amazed if anyone wants to use that controller for any extended period of time, let alone two people.  
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6. Re: Morning Consolidation Jun 10, 2011, 12:36 nin
 

I read what he said, he said they are doing research...

I'm talking about their presentation from E3 the other day. They had slides showing how it would be used. And it featured one person playing on the Wii U screen while 4 others use regular Wii remotes on a TV.



 
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