Ars Technica - Games for Windows Live is a broken mess and I hate it.
Microsoft wants to be a part of my living room, and they are. But if the company also wants to butt into my PC gaming and require this login, it needs to find a way to allow me to use my account on different devices at the same time. Heck, if you spend the money on two Xbox 360 systems, you can't use the same account on both; you have to move it with a USB stick or recover the account whenever you move between systems. I understand that if you want to play on both systems online at the same time, Microsoft wants you to have two accounts, but if I want to have two systems in different rooms they don't want me to switch back and forth in a convenient fashion? Really lame.
Dirwulf wrote on May 6, 2011, 19:34:Dades wrote on May 6, 2011, 18:44:
If you really need a history lesson on Microsoft's lack of support for the PC platform then I suggest using Google. You're either thick or just one of those morons who argues the opposite side of everything to be annoying but either way we're done here.
Yeah that's what I thought. Back up your insults with no facts...
Dades wrote on May 6, 2011, 18:44:
If you really need a history lesson on Microsoft's lack of support for the PC platform then I suggest using Google. You're either thick or just one of those morons who argues the opposite side of everything to be annoying but either way we're done here.
Dades wrote on May 6, 2011, 18:23:Dirwulf wrote on May 6, 2011, 18:11:
So one three minute video, that has never been publicly released, that shows a Facebook integration with Farmville and Xbox, and suddenly that means Microsoft wants to turn WGX into Farmville? That's quite a leap there.
Yes it's quite a leap...if you ignore all of their actions for the past ten years and focus instead on a single press release where they halfheartedly suggest they will support the platform.
Dirwulf wrote on May 6, 2011, 18:11:
So one three minute video, that has never been publicly released, that shows a Facebook integration with Farmville and Xbox, and suddenly that means Microsoft wants to turn WGX into Farmville? That's quite a leap there.
Dades wrote on May 6, 2011, 16:46:Dirwulf wrote on May 6, 2011, 16:40:
Its a video about the integration of Avatars. So what? That's one thing they may be working on and means nothing. And what is bad about this may I ask?
It's a video that includes their vision of how the platform operates. They don't want a vibrant gaming community, they want to monetize the platform and turn it into Farmville.
Dirwulf wrote on May 6, 2011, 16:40:
Its a video about the integration of Avatars. So what? That's one thing they may be working on and means nothing. And what is bad about this may I ask?
Dades wrote on May 6, 2011, 15:50:Dirwulf wrote on May 6, 2011, 12:18:
There was an article posted here back in March how MS is committed to making GFWL viable.
http://tinyurl.com/6craueh
This is their idea of making GFWL viable. You would have to be really dense to think they were in any way serious about supporting PC gaming.
You can't log in with Steam on multiple systems simultaneously, either. The only issue with it and GFWL is that Netflix is tied to the Live account on the 360 and needs to be a gold account to work, otherwise this would be a non-issue with GFWL as well.
Dirwulf wrote on May 6, 2011, 12:18:
There was an article posted here back in March how MS is committed to making GFWL viable.
http://tinyurl.com/6craueh
Prez wrote on May 6, 2011, 11:58:
Blue emailed me a code for the AoE Online beta (probably because I've posted in every thread so far saying I DON'T want one ), and I gave it to my son, who is now 18. He tried to log into GFWL, but it says he needs "Parental Permission", even though he is 18 and the game is rated "Teen" by the ESRB. So I tried to log in as his parent and it said my credentials are incorrect. My son got frustrated and told me to forget it; it just wasn't worth the trouble.
The author is correct - GFWL is a broken mess.
Dirwulf wrote on May 6, 2011, 11:59:Simple solution. Do what Steam does. Let you log in to a computer and a console at the same time.
I understand Microsoft's thinking. You can't sign into your WoW account but once. I believe this is for security purposes, but obviously in this case it can be a huge pain. So the wife gets a second account for watching movies and such. If she signs in to watch Netflix with her account he can still get achievements, etc. But I guess that "free" part kinda of wipes that out too, since the second account would be on the PC.
So then, MS should make free accounts for watching Netflix on your Xbox if you already have an existing account. But they want you to buy a gold subscription, so that's probably not going to happen.
I wonder what a good solution would be?
MajorD wrote on May 6, 2011, 12:21:I see what you did there.
Full 'Steam' ahead.......