Dirwulf wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 16:53:

7.62WorldOrder wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 16:10:
So I take it you would have no problem with, say, GM repossessing your car because you're being a dick on the road to other people? People behaving in ways you don't approve of is not legal grounds to steal their property. Give me a break.

Its called a drivers license. If you are a dick on the road, it will be taken away. Of course, that depends on how you define dick. If you're driving around flipping people off, that's one thing, but if you are causing accidents, then yes, you no longer should have the right to drive. You can own a car, but you sure as hell can't drive it.

Erebus wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 20:19:
Darn it, I forgot to read through the whole thread to see what it was ok for me to say.

Erebus wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 20:19:
Please back up the statements of your running mouth by standing in the middle of Wal-Mart next time you're there (which I'm sure won't be more than 24 hours from now) and starting a 4-letter-word rant trashing the company and their employees, running down their products and services and doing so ad nauseum in a manner the other shoppers can't avoid. That's the kind of behaviour that most of these ban-clowns participate in, and I'm *perfelctly* comfortable with them losing their game privileges altogether.

Erebus wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 20:19:
A git I may be, but I don't go around telling people what they can and can't think or call them names for expressing their opinion.

A git I may be, but I don't go around telling people what they can and can't think or call them names for expressing their opinion.

Erebus wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 20:19:
Darn it, I forgot to read through the whole thread to see what it was ok for me to say.

Please back up the statements of your running mouth by standing in the middle of Wal-Mart next time you're there (which I'm sure won't be more than 24 hours from now) and starting a 4-letter-word rant trashing the company and their employees, running down their products and services and doing so ad nauseum in a manner the other shoppers can't avoid. That's the kind of behaviour that most of these ban-clowns participate in, and I'm *perfelctly* comfortable with them losing their game privileges altogether.

A git I may be, but I don't go around telling people what they can and can't think or call them names for expressing their opinion.

Erebus wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 20:19:
Darn it, I forgot to read through the whole thread to see what it was ok for me to say.

Please back up the statements of your running mouth by standing in the middle of Wal-Mart next time you're there (which I'm sure won't be more than 24 hours from now) and starting a 4-letter-word rant trashing the company and their employees, running down their products and services and doing so ad nauseum in a manner the other shoppers can't avoid. That's the kind of behaviour that most of these ban-clowns participate in, and I'm *perfelctly* comfortable with them losing their game privileges altogether.

A git I may be, but I don't go around telling people what they can and can't think or call them names for expressing their opinion.

Impressive.

Even after so many have clearly illustrated how the last guy to post this is a total idiot - there you are to pile on with your support.

You actually believe it is a good idea to let a company revoke someone's rights (in this case a game they paid money for) simply because they "criticize and run down the establishment and its employees"?

So, if I don't like a game, and say so, the company should be able to prevent me from playing it? Even though I paid for it?

What if I give it a bad rating on a user review site? Or a mediocre one? Or just fail support it with every fiber of my being?

For crissake, go buy 1984 and have someone read it to you, then explain why you're being a total git.

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist

space captain wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 19:07:

Dirwulf wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 18:46:
The bottom line is you need a license to drive a car and that privilege can be taken away at any time. You certainly have the right to own a car, but unless you are licensed to drive it, you can't.

bullshit, its quite easy to drive without a license

there is a massive difference between physical law and man-made law

Dirwulf wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 18:46:
The bottom line is you need a license to drive a car and that privilege can be taken away at any time. You certainly have the right to own a car, but unless you are licensed to drive it, you can't.

Verno wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 18:34:

Dirwulf wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 17:34:

You still need a license to drive a car, and if you misbehave when in your vehicle, they will take your license to drive away. You still own the car, but you can't legally drive it anywhere.

If only this was actually true. You need to be a complete and total retard to have your license taken away, in most places they practically let you get away with murder before doing that because it prevents most people from making an income.

Creston wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 12:56:
So how is it mentioned in their Terms of Service as being possible, then at the same time being explained as an error in their system?

It's either one or the other. Unless they're saying that you can lose access to MP games, rather than SP?

Creston

Dirwulf wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 17:34:

You still need a license to drive a car, and if you misbehave when in your vehicle, they will take your license to drive away. You still own the car, but you can't legally drive it anywhere.

Cutter wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 17:22:

Erebus wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 16:16:
While it's amusing to see the publishers running scared over this issue and un-banning left and right, as fas as I'm concerned one of the biggest problems with internet gaming is people feeling they can act like a horse's ass with no repercussions.

Name one "real life" business where you can stand in the middle of the store, act like a jackass, criticize and run down the establishment and its employees, and literally cause damage to the business with no repercussions. With the exception of a WWE wrestlish match or the Republican National Convention, I can't think of too many.

Ban 'em all and let God sort 'em out.

Well obviously you've never had a job in your life because that happens everywhere all the time. It boggles the mind that some of you just don't seem to fully grasp the situation here and/or really enjoy being a victim of a greedy corporation. I can only assume it's like some sort of Stockholm syndrome you have with these corporations. Seek professional help.

No one has a problem with EA banning the guy from the respective forum. The guy even said himself that he went overboard and deserved a temporary ban. Banning him from enjoying the game he purchased is something else entirely. As others pointed out it's like your car's manufacturer not allowing you to drive it after you've paid for it. I don't see how that we can make any more clear what's wrong with that.

Erebus wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 16:16:
While it's amusing to see the publishers running scared over this issue and un-banning left and right, as fas as I'm concerned one of the biggest problems with internet gaming is people feeling they can act like a horse's ass with no repercussions.

Name one "real life" business where you can stand in the middle of the store, act like a jackass, criticize and run down the establishment and its employees, and literally cause damage to the business with no repercussions. With the exception of a WWE wrestlish match or the Republican National Convention, I can't think of too many.

Ban 'em all and let God sort 'em out.

as fas as I'm concerned one of the biggest problems with internet gaming is people feeling they can act like a horse's ass with no repercussions.

Verno wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 16:29:
I don't know what kind of world you inhabit but I see people being assholes in stores all the time without repercussions. Seriously where are you? People will want to move there. To name a few - Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Target, Any Grocery Store, stores that sell lottery tickets to old people and so on. Contrary to what you may think, people don't need anonymity to be dipshits.

7.62WorldOrder wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 16:10:
So I take it you would have no problem with, say, GM repossessing your car because you're being a dick on the road to other people? People behaving in ways you don't approve of is not legal grounds to steal their property. Give me a break.

Erebus wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 16:16:
While it's amusing to see the publishers running scared over this issue and un-banning left and right, as fas as I'm concerned one of the biggest problems with internet gaming is people feeling they can act like a horse's ass with no repercussions.

Name one "real life" business where you can stand in the middle of the store, act like a jackass, criticize and run down the establishment and its employees, and literally cause damage to the business with no repercussions. With the exception of a WWE wrestlish match or the Republican National Convention, I can't think of too many.

Ban 'em all and let God sort 'em out.