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Since I still see people refute this: "'gib' is derived from 'giblet', which is pronounced with a j sound." id Software Technical Director John Carmack (who should know).

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43. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 21:18 Sepharo
 
Fion wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 10:37:
Pwn used to be pronounced pween because it originated as an april fools joke in PC Gamer magazine in the mid 90's. When the april edition of the mag (mind this was when it was a hugely popular product) came out and every article and review was using the word everyone was like 'wtf' until they finally said it was an april fools joke, they wanted to invent a new word for kicking ass, the mag even included how to pronounce the word. But as you can see the use of pwn quickly spread.

Today the new kids say pown because they all think it is a derivative of own. The simple fact that it is pronounced like this in major media when it is rarely said doesn't help.

Seems that you're still fooled.

The April fools joke was that they:

A. Invented it.
B. Pronounce it "pween".
 
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42. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 15:55 Creston
 
I like the cut of your gib, Mr Carmack.

Creston
 
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41. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 13:53 Ant
 
J wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 13:41:
H4X!

(You just know I'll be blaming lag next)
Lamer! R0d3nt!
 
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40. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 13:41 J
 
H4X!

(You just know I'll be blaming lag next)
 
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39. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 11:54 Ant
 
Ratty wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 11:50:
Yes and I STILL pronounce it Eye Dee software. What are you gonna do about it?
We will pwn you.
 
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38. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 11:52  Blue 
 
Ratty wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 11:50:
Yes and I STILL pronounce it Eye Dee software. What are you gonna do about it?

Pwn you.
 
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37. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 11:50 Ratty
 
Yes and I STILL pronounce it Eye Dee software. What are you gonna do about it?  
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36. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 11:03 Ant
 
Blue wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 10:55:
Fion wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 10:37:
On topic with Gib, everyone I have ever played quake with has said it with a hard g, so that is how I pronounce it. I'd be willing to bet that while Carmack says it is a j sound, others within iD say it differently. So I chalk it up to dialect differences.

I'm guessing that everyone there pronounces it the way Carmack does. On a similar topic, it's id, not iD (nor ID Id, or i.d.).

As for pwn, I think it indeed should be pronounced the same as own, as it is meant as a goof on the common typo. I and friends sometimes pronounce it powned, but this is meant as a verbal way of expressing the same joke.
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35. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 10:55  Blue 
 
Fion wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 10:37:
On topic with Gib, everyone I have ever played quake with has said it with a hard g, so that is how I pronounce it. I'd be willing to bet that while Carmack says it is a j sound, others within iD say it differently. So I chalk it up to dialect differences.

I'm guessing that everyone there pronounces it the way Carmack does. On a similar topic, it's id, not iD (nor ID Id, or i.d.).

As for pwn, I think it indeed should be pronounced the same as own, as it is meant as a goof on the common typo. I and friends sometimes pronounce it powned, but this is meant as a verbal way of expressing the same joke.
 
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34. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 10:37 Fion
 
Pwn used to be pronounced pween because it originated as an april fools joke in PC Gamer magazine in the mid 90's. When the april edition of the mag (mind this was when it was a hugely popular product) came out and every article and review was using the word everyone was like 'wtf' until they finally said it was an april fools joke, they wanted to invent a new word for kicking ass, the mag even included how to pronounce the word. But as you can see the use of pwn quickly spread.

Today the new kids say pown because they all think it is a derivative of own. The simple fact that it is pronounced like this in major media when it is rarely said doesn't help.

It's similar to how the folks use leet speech and think it is cool because it makes the words look all funny and cool. When it was originated so that BBS users could still search for porn after that word was banned lol. Thus the first leet speech word was pr0n.

On topic with Gib, everyone I have ever played quake with has said it with a hard g, so that is how I pronounce it. I'd be willing to bet that while Carmack says it is a j sound, others within iD say it differently. So I chalk it up to dialect differences.
 
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33. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 09:58 Agrajag
 
Ive never heard pwn being pronounced as pween. It sounds rediculous and makes no sense whatsoever.

Yeah, that was originally sort of the point: to make a joke of it...

I'm pretty sure it was right here on Blues News ages ago where someone (loonyboi, maybe?) invented the "pween" pronunciation, and I've always used it since, just because it's amusing and silly... But, I'll be damned if I can find any trace of such a post using either the search functionality here or Google with "site:www.bluesnews.com"... So, maybe I hallucinated the whole thing? ;-) Any other old-timers who have been here since nearly the beginning remember such a thing, or have I just become senile?
 
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32. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 09:36 reisub
 
Dr. D. Schreber wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 09:21:
reisub wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 09:09:
Sacrifex wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 06:41:
And I'm going to keep saying mana wrong too. So there.
How do you pronounce mana? I say it the same as manor/manner. Is there another way?

And yeah, pwn as in own. I've never heard it said but have always pronounced it like that in my head.

That's "manna," which is actually a different word (bread from heaven.) "Mana" is pronounced "MAH-nuh."
I'm not sure I'll be taking that one up. x)

pwn obviously comes from a common mistype so should be pronounced according to the intended original I should think.
 
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31. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 09:30 zirik
 
InBlack wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 09:07:
Actually I would say that the pronounciation comes from the word "own". As in: I owned your ass -> I pwned your ass.

thats my understanding of leetspeak. they like to replace certain letters with numbers that have a similar shape. even if it looks inverted. leet becomes l33t. likewise some letters are also replaced by characters close to it on the keyboard or in the sequence of the alphabet order. so instead of 'own' it became 'pwn'.
 
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30. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 09:21 Dr. D. Schreber
 
reisub wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 09:09:
Sacrifex wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 06:41:
And I'm going to keep saying mana wrong too. So there.
How do you pronounce mana? I say it the same as manor/manner. Is there another way?

And yeah, pwn as in own. I've never heard it said but have always pronounced it like that in my head.

That's "manna," which is actually a different word (bread from heaven.) "Mana" is pronounced "MAH-nuh."
 
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29. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 09:12 gilly775
 
I know it as the "j" sound as when I grew up in the south, we ate chicken hearts and giblets.  
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28. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 09:09 reisub
 
Sacrifex wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 06:41:
And I'm going to keep saying mana wrong too. So there.
How do you pronounce mana? I say it the same as manor/manner. Is there another way?

And yeah, pwn as in own. I've never heard it said but have always pronounced it like that in my head.
 
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27. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 09:07 InBlack
 
Dr. D. Schreber wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 07:23:
Agrajag wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 06:25:
This reminds me of "pwn", which I recall used to be pronounced "pween" back in the day, but now everyone pronounces as "pown" or "pawn" instead for some bizarre reason...

Probably because "pween" is pretty close to "peen." No one wants to add a "no homo!" suffix every time they say they pwn'd someone.

Actually I would say that the pronounciation comes from the word "own". As in: I owned your ass -> I pwned your ass.

Ive never heard pwn being pronounced as pween. It sounds rediculous and makes no sense whatsoever. My 2c.
 
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26. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 08:46 Jonny
 
Prez wrote on Mar 9, 2011, 08:08:
If the city of Boston can get away calling their basketball team the "[S]eltics", when the correct pronunciation is "[K]eltics", then by God I am going to continue to say "[G] ib", because "[J] ib" sounds retarded.

Glasgow Celtic is pronounced Seltic as well. Just seems to be the standard for sports teams to use the S instead of the hard C.
 
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25. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 08:08 Prez
 
If the city of Boston can get away calling their basketball team the "[S]eltics", when the correct pronunciation is "[K]eltics", then by God I am going to continue to say "[G] ib", because "[J] ib" sounds retarded.  
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24. Re: Quote of the Day Mar 9, 2011, 08:04 briktal
 
I was actually thinking about something like this the other day, words where the short form is part of the full word, but the short form is pronounced differently than it would be as a part of the whole word. It probably has a lot to do with the internet, or at least text-heavy communication, as the only two examples that ever readily come to me are from WoW, where they use "disc" for "discipline" and "demo" for "demonology"  
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