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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 21:51 |
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I'll have to try this again on the weekend when I can give it my full attention.
I'm not sure what technical problems people are having, but it was fine on my system. Well, little pauses between cinematics and gameplay and my warrior was a bit slow/stupid in switching targets, but it was stable under DX11 and high quality (game would not let me select very high quality.)
Otherwise, I am not impressed so far. Upfront, I always had issues with DA - it certainly is not the spiritcual successor to BG and it didn't have much meat to it once you took out the "origin" story (made all the more obvious by ME2 being the same game, but in space, and their being completely dropped from this game) - but I cut it a lot of slack because it was the start of the series and I rationalized as a hybrid of old and new.
But this demo, it's okay, but it doesn't feel like anything special. There is some disconnect by not creating my charcter, its mindless action, the warrior is way over the top, things are way too easy, you get the teenie bopper adrenaline rush cinematics of killing all the big monsters, the interface feels more minimalized than streamlined, leveling up is clunky if you do it out of the order the game wants, your brother is an obtuse stereotype, the art introductions make me feel disconnected from the world, etc. Lastly, I know I can adjust this in the menu, but I really hate the damned default camera and movement controls. I may go to hell for this but, WoW does it a lot better.
I wasn't going to buy this on day one period because of the BS with the EAWare "Sorry, you're a filthy pirate - even if you purchase it on day one - because you didn't preorder three months in advance. No DLC for you!" However, the early reviews all came out great so I was hoping I was just being a pretentious fool and would eagerly await the GotY edition. But after playing the demo, at least initially, I'm thinking $20 entry point.
Maybe there is a really good game in there, but the initial impressions this demo gives are all bad ones. It just plays like a rough, not particularly pretty, third-person Diablo clone in some generic fantasy land.
Like I said, I'll give it another spin later this week, but this is a mediocre demo. Just as DA wasn't BG, DA2 doesn't feel like DA. Who am I? What did I learn? How did this come about? What new culture is there to experience? What personal look for my character can I create? What new tactics/AI/gameplay is there to experience?
I'm looking for these things and more, but all the demo offers me is "Dude, shut up! ZOMG, i'm totally 1337! RARGH! Hellz yeah! EAT MY KICK ASS SWORD, BIZNITCHEZ!!!"
I can definitely wait this one out no problem.
Disliking the demo, but not sure what to make of the game,
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 21:48 |
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Those were halcyon days!!! I had alot of fun with this demo and I got it working like a slaved dwarf in DX11  |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 21:41 |
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Disappointment. That sums it up pretty well.
To be up front, I absolutely loved DA:O and adored the personalization of the storyline. When I heard that the character you spent all that time building would play virtually no part in this sequel, I was a bit worried and somewhat uneasy. However, I thought, I wouldn't mind creating a whole new personalized character to put through an epic journey, even if the character origin was taken away and you started with the same, pre-defined background. I was trying to be positive and hopeful, you know?
This offering is very little like the game before it. The game play is very dumbed down while the action is sped up for people with small attention spans. The graphics have been prettied up, but the modernized UI does not fit well considering the game's genre. The chat wheel is painfully insulting when compared to the complexity of its predecessor. The demo shows level designs to be even MORE linear than previous Bioware games in what we get to see.
If it had a generic title and I didn't who this game was from or anything about its development, I wouldn't even associate this with DA:O. I would totally think this would be some other ARPG console port.
Perhaps this is just a bad demo and does not do justice to the actual game? I'm willing to give it that. There's enough in it, though, to make me leery and suppress that whole Bioware fanboi impulse.
I am very happy that they had a demo, however. My pre-order is canceled and I'll pick it up on sale a few months later, possibly when ME3 comes out if it ends up ME3 gets an even worse case of consolitis than it already has.
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 21:11 |
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| Even with all the changes from doa1 to 2, the game is still fun |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 21:04 |
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Dades wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 20:11:
StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 19:52:
It's the same game, just faster. I really don't see how anyone could see some huge difference between the two.
No it's not unless your definition of the same is that they are games where you hit keys and things happen.
So, name something specific about the combat that is different besides the pace and the camera limitation. Of course in the first game I always had Wynne casting haste so I'm used everyone running around like overcaffeinated monkeys. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 20:56 |
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Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 20:17:
necrosis wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 19:59:
Then you obviously prefer consoles over PC games and under the age of 20. Yeah its a stereotype but most people under that age I talk to say there is nothing wrong with the current flood of piss poor console ports coming to PC. That's probably because the current generation of gamers didn't have that period we did. Where a game was carried by it's story, and/or how far you could actually push technology with things like...sprites. Or how good the scripting was on the 'basic' AI.
Or doing things like...modifying memory spaces to load drivers. hah. LOL. Yes I will agree there are things I DON'T miss. Ugh... autoexec.bat and getting sound cards to work.
But I do miss when story and feel ran games instead of edgy, fast paced, over the top crap that today's console drones gobble up like a poor man at an all-you-can eat buffet. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 20:20 |
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Well well..The elitism and douche baggery is thick today.
Once i took the game out of dx11(fubared)and the game ran more than 2fps i quite enjoyed myself with it.
I put 60hrs into the first and never finished it but this i think i'll try.
Its far from perfect but it's sure as shit no worse off then what they did to the 2nd Mass effect. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 20:18 |
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hmmm, reminded me of Jade Empire. Not a bad thing as I quite enjoyed JE, but I feel the martial arts style combat of the rogue and the mage flow better. Warrior didn't seem to work well at all, alternating between ridiculous swings of overlarge weapons or hiding behind a shield and poking an ogre on autoattack for 5 minutes.
Don't like the UI at all, it's got a sleek, modern flair to it that doesn't fit the setting. DA's wood and brass effect seemed much better.
Dialogue is corny, but then all Bioware dialogue is. Despite that I think I'll buy it, on balance it's worth a go for me.
Or doing things like...modifying memory spaces to load drivers. hah.
Ah, fiddling with the autoexec.bat and config.sys to get Ultima 7 running. Those were the days.  |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 20:17 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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necrosis wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 19:59:
Then you obviously prefer consoles over PC games and under the age of 20. Yeah its a stereotype but most people under that age I talk to say there is nothing wrong with the current flood of piss poor console ports coming to PC. That's probably because the current generation of gamers didn't have that period we did. Where a game was carried by it's story, and/or how far you could actually push technology with things like...sprites. Or how good the scripting was on the 'basic' AI.
Or doing things like...modifying memory spaces to load drivers. hah. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 20:11 |
Dades |
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StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 19:52:
It's the same game, just faster. I really don't see how anyone could see some huge difference between the two.
No it's not unless your definition of the same is that they are games where you hit keys and things happen. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 19:59 |
necrosis |
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StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 19:52:
necrosis wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 18:46:
I just... can not even fathom how anyone can consider this is BETTER. Everything about it feels like they are insulting my intelligence. That they feel they had to make dumb things down for their player base.
This is the reason PC gaming is dieing. I don't give a shit what the numbers say.
It's the same game, just faster. I really don't see how anyone could see some huge difference between the two. Then you obviously prefer consoles over PC games and under the age of 20. Yeah its a stereotype but most people under that age I talk to say there is nothing wrong with the current flood of piss poor console ports coming to PC. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 19:52 |
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necrosis wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 18:46:
I just... can not even fathom how anyone can consider this is BETTER. Everything about it feels like they are insulting my intelligence. That they feel they had to make dumb things down for their player base.
This is the reason PC gaming is dieing. I don't give a shit what the numbers say.
It's the same game, just faster. I really don't see how anyone could see some huge difference between the two. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 19:47 |
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DA2 sucks and therefore all your dreams, hopes and aspirations about PC gaming have been utterly crushed?
you might want to get some full-body kevlar as you continue to move through life |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 19:46 |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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nin wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 19:04:
Who is the dumbfuck at bioware that keeps putting these in games? I don't know. But by the sounds of it, it'll be the first thing modders will be going after. |
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and it is always wrong."
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 19:33 |
necrosis |
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Nomaar wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 19:04:
This is the reason PC gaming is dieing. I don't give a shit what the numbers say.
This is the natural course game franchises take once the big public companies get their paws on them. PC gaming is alive and well if you look beyond the EAs and pay attention to what the independents are doing. True but it sucks when something was good but gets run into the ground. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 19:04 |
Nomaar |
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This is the reason PC gaming is dieing. I don't give a shit what the numbers say.
This is the natural course game franchises take once the big public companies get their paws on them. PC gaming is alive and well if you look beyond the EAs and pay attention to what the independents are doing. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 19:04 |
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And do not even get me started on the Mass Effect style chat decisions.
Who is the dumbfuck at bioware that keeps putting these in games?
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 18:49 |
entr0py |
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Bumpy wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 18:21:
Gah, just played the demo. Not good. Don't care for it at all and I loved the first game. Very different feel from the first. Don't like the lack of overhead view at all. HUD and UI feels like its made for the iPhone or something.
Hate to say it but it feels definitely designed for consoles first, then half assed adjusted for PC second.
This will be a non-purchase for me. Or $10 or less buy down the road.
Here's hoping tons of mods fix this game up.
The HUD takes some getting used to, but did you notice it takes up maybe half as much screen space as the first game? I think that was the point of the simplified and color coded icons, so you can still visually distinguish between skills. I bet if they had just scaled down the pretty skill icons from the first game by 50%, they would be blurry thumbnails.
To be clear, I don't think the game play changes are really better. Though we didn't get to try out the advanced new stuff like multi-class skill combos. In a way it is nice to have a change of pace, I wouldn't want it to be exactly the same as last time. My feeling is that, on balance, the combat won't be quite as good as the first game. But it will still be good enough to be worth my time.
This comment was edited on Feb 22, 2011, 19:08. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 18:46 |
necrosis |
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StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 18:27:
necrosis wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 18:23:
Wow this game is dumbed down. Even the menu's are. This game has completely lost all its style and flare that the first one had. Everything is reduced to generic square boxes. Popups, inventory, the hot bar, character status boxes, everything.
And do not even get me started on the Mass Effect style chat decisions.
Uninstalling the demo before I even finish it...
Complete opposite reaction here, it's the same game but even better.
That said DX11 seems to be completely broken for me. I just... can not even fathom how anyone can consider this is BETTER. Everything about it feels like they are insulting my intelligence. That they feel they had to make dumb things down for their player base.
This is the reason PC gaming is dieing. I don't give a shit what the numbers say. |
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Re: Dragon Age II Demo |
Feb 22, 2011, 18:43 |
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necrosis wrote on Feb 22, 2011, 18:23:
Wow this game is dumbed down. Even the menu's are. This game has completely lost all its style and flare that the first one had. Everything is reduced to generic square boxes. Popups, inventory, the hot bar, character status boxes, everything.
And do not even get me started on the Mass Effect style chat decisions.
Spot on. Gone generic is a great way to describe it. It feels like all the other dime a dozen RPGs now. |
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