Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 15, 2011, 08:16:
Lol, youre right, most say "press enter" "press space" or "press enter or start", still some say "press start". Do you really wanna go there? I think you noticed already how stupid your comment was.

nutshell42 wrote on Feb 15, 2011, 09:08:
Linear gameplay, ridiculous FoV, yesteryear graphics; it sure sounds like you whiners talk about Half-Life 2, amiright?

StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 15, 2011, 02:23:

Prez wrote on Feb 15, 2011, 01:56:
I think that having to try to live up to PC standards, if only in minimalistic ways, has had the effect of making console games better and better, thus the ports are becoming more and more tolerable.

Indeed. Compare an old port like Thief 3 to recent stuff. Consoles have gotten to the point where, for my tastes at least, they no longer turn games to absolute crap with small areas and completely undefined textures.

Games would still all be better if built for the PC and then ported to consoles, but still, games can be quite good either way.

StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 22:48:

Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 22:09:

StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 21:50:
Secondly I have seen "press start" on a PC game a total of never in my life with a controller not plugged in. Most people leave their controllers plugged in, which games auto-detect now-a-days, and then complain when the game shows controller graphics.

Not to sound like an ass, but when was the last time you played a PC game? 1995?
Right now I have a total of 10 games installed and 8 of them have this with no controller plugged in (sold that sorry excuse for an input device long ago).

They say "press start"? What games are they? I never see "press start" ever, I always see press enter or whatever, and we had that way before console ports.

Keep in mind that I can easily distinguish aliasing from 8 feet away on a 50 inch TV.

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 21:35:

Sepharo wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 19:38:
Soo... like Zork then?

No. More like zork is like mission impossible.

Prez wrote on Feb 15, 2011, 01:56:
I think that having to try to live up to PC standards, if only in minimalistic ways, has had the effect of making console games better and better, thus the ports are becoming more and more tolerable.

StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 15, 2011, 00:49:

Well some of us don't want to buy consoles and are annoyed as all hell with aliasing and analog aiming, so we quite like that these games keep getting ported to the PC even if they are not as good as they would be if the PC was the only game platform in existence.

Slashman wrote on Feb 15, 2011, 00:32:
And I don't have a problem with a company switching to consoles if that is what they think will make them money. I'd just rather said company not pretend to be making something that matters to the type of gamer I am. That's insulting...which probably means nothing to the company in question.

swaaye wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 21:28:
The problem is not consoles vs. PC. The problem is the way the industry has grown and wants to sell its games to millions of people instead of say 300,000 like in the '90s. When you target millions of people, you do things differently, particularly when your budget is now $20-30 million instead of $1 million like the yonder years. And what's even more "interesting" is that what's coming out today is really an evolution of what they think worked with other recent million sellers. The real kicker is they are probably spot on to go after the mega huge CoD / Halo crowd. They mean more for moola than some bitchy UT99 / Half Life 1 nostalgia sufferers like us.

The blame really lies on our species. Not very many people out there have the brain power or desire to play complex games for hundreds of hours. And there's the budget factor and the way it costs ten times more to build content today, and how this has increased the control of the investors (the people who foot the bill).

And seriously are there people on here who have no love for consoles at all? Are there people here that truly hate SNES, Dreamcast, N64, PS1, PS2, Xbox, Saturn, etc, etc? I think the game industry would be a hell of a lot interesting without them.

Instead of bitching and moaning about Crytek / EA wanting to get mega rich (or at least do more than break even this time), go read about that strange RPG/FPS E.Y.E indie game that's coming.

Creston wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 23:11:
Wow, quite an about-face for Cevat. Impressive.

/waiting for the demo.

//there IS a PC demo coming, right?

Creston

StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 21:50:

Fion wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 18:52:
Frankly if they care about the PC they can go so far as to remove the 'press start to begin the game' notice at the start.

First off it's not finished, so that means nothing. Secondly I have seen "press start" on a PC game a total of never in my life with a controller not plugged in. Most people leave their controllers plugged in, which games auto-detect now-a-days, and then complain when the game shows controller graphics.

"Herp derp Mirror's Edge sucks because it forces controller button prompts on me derrrrrrp!" Unplug your controller you stupid asshole!

Arg! You gave me flashbacks.

Muscular Beaver wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 22:09:

StingingVelvet wrote on Feb 14, 2011, 21:50:
Secondly I have seen "press start" on a PC game a total of never in my life with a controller not plugged in. Most people leave their controllers plugged in, which games auto-detect now-a-days, and then complain when the game shows controller graphics.

Not to sound like an ass, but when was the last time you played a PC game? 1995?
Right now I have a total of 10 games installed and 8 of them have this with no controller plugged in (sold that sorry excuse for an input device long ago).