Elessar wrote on Feb 8, 2011, 14:12:
"I'm not buying it, if it doesn't have mod support!"

Verno wrote on Feb 7, 2011, 13:10:
That's a bit ridiculous. The lack of mods for a game that doesn't give you the ability to mod it somehow means that there are no possible creative avenues unexplored?

You don't care about mods, fair enough. That doesn't mean everyone else should stop caring about it. User generated content is a good thing for a game to have, there is no legitimate argument otherwise.

That's a design issue, not a mod issue. A developer not adding a simple "Vanilla" tickbox in a server browser shouldn't condemn the modding experience. The advantages of a custom content community far outweigh the disadvantage of a user joining a modded server by accident.

If anything, this furthers my point. 1942 and DC are old school at this point. I enjoyed both too, but there wasn't anything like DC at the time. You can get almost any flavor of game now that time has passed. For modern games, like BC2? I can't think of how a mod would make it that much better than the core gameplay. It's a pretty self sustaining game as it stands.

If it's anything like Quake, UT or TF2 was, where modded servers were littered in with core gameplay servers, they do affect me and I simply don't want mods in that game.

Verno wrote on Feb 7, 2011, 12:25:
Well it seems wrong then because some of us just like mods. I loved BF1942 just as much as I loved Desert Combat and I wouldn't want to give up the experience of playing either, they were both fantastic in their own ways.

Some user content is just as polished and professional as AAA efforts by the way.

No one would force you sift through through mods, they don't affect you one way or the other. Choice is rarely a bad thing.

It seems the people that are for mods come from that old school mentality, woeful of days gone by and are unhappy with how PC gaming has turned out. I get that, but I've also learned to accept it and appreciate the good, polished games that come out now.

bigspender wrote on Feb 6, 2011, 02:58:
can't say i've ever bothered to play a mod in and BF games. I'd rather a more polished product or more content, than have amateur content from fans

bigspender wrote on Feb 7, 2011, 00:14:
have mod support so someone can make cool feature and maps for the game which some players will use. ... the developer could but will not implement that cool feature or maps for everyone,

Sepharo wrote on Feb 6, 2011, 03:33:

bigspender wrote on Feb 6, 2011, 02:58:
can't say i've ever bothered to play a mod in and BF games. I'd rather a more polished product or more content, than have amateur content from fans

Never played BF mods but you're ready to brush them off as unpolished? Desert Combat ended up being a better game than 1942, it was certainly far ahead of its time. The developers got picked up by DICE to work on BF2.

Also the vast majority of mods for the BF series and most moddable FPS in general aren't total conversions. They're small scripts, modified vehicle spawns, management controls, new game modes. All things that improve the game but don't bring any measurable profit to the publisher.

You've likely been playing on servers with lots of different mods, just not total conversions.

LittleMe wrote on Feb 6, 2011, 05:27:
Bethesda's RPG's also capitalize on that. Nuff said.

I get that, and I would like mod support too, but I doubt it will happen. Activision release $15 map packs that sell 3-4 million, that's 60 million dollars.

Sepharo wrote on Feb 6, 2011, 03:33:

bigspender wrote on Feb 6, 2011, 02:58:
can't say i've ever bothered to play a mod in and BF games. I'd rather a more polished product or more content, than have amateur content from fans

Never played BF mods but you're ready to brush them off as unpolished? Desert Combat ended up being a better game than 1942, it was certainly far ahead of its time. The developers got picked up by DICE to work on BF2.

Also the vast majority of mods for the BF series and most moddable FPS in general aren't total conversions. They're small scripts, modified vehicle spawns, management controls, new game modes. All things that improve the game but don't bring any measurable profit to the publisher.

You've likely been playing on servers with lots of different mods, just not total conversions.

bigspender wrote on Feb 6, 2011, 02:58:
can't say i've ever bothered to play a mod in and BF games. I'd rather a more polished product or more content, than have amateur content from fans

bigspender wrote on Feb 6, 2011, 02:58:
can't say i've ever bothered to play a mod in and BF games. I'd rather a more polished product or more content, than have amateur content from fans