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No XP Battlefield 3?

A tweet from Johan Andersson from this past summer offers a revelation not noted here at the time, as the tweet seems to confirm rumors from 2007 that the Frostbite 2.0 engine that will power the upcoming Battlefield 3 will not support Windows XP, saying: "Frostbite 2 is primarily developed for DX11. XP & DX9 is _not_ supported, 64-bit OS is recommended. Lots of time to upgrade if you haven't!" The thread about this on the Electronic Arts Forums also has comments noting this was revealed already, and there are slides in DICE's SIGGRAPH 2010 presentation indicating Frostbite 2.0 will only support DirectX 10 and DirectX 11. Thanks James via BF3Blog.

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95. Re: No XP Battlefield 3? Jan 3, 2011, 09:58 Dev
 
InBlack wrote on Jan 3, 2011, 04:40:
Someone mentioned HD space. I have a nagging feeling if I delete all of the non-system stuff that I have installed Ill still have only about 60% of free HD space, which is fucking insane??!!

What the fuck? Why does Windows7 need like 50Gb of hard drive space??
Here, go nuts:
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
Its a program called TreeSize that shows you gigabytes taken up by each folder (look at the screenshot to the right) in a nice graphical list format. You'll notice that the win 7 WINDOWS folder alone is going to be like 20 gigs or more, and thats not the only part of a windows install. Add in the rest of a windows install and you are talking 30 gigs or more.
If you run it you can see the biggest offending folders and perhaps prune some of it back. For instance I had a lot of extra crap in my temp folders, even after running the win 7 MS disk cleanup util. A big chunk was IE cache files that even the latest ie STILL won't delete even if you tell it to delete the cache.
Its an INCREDIBLY useful program to tell you where most of your space is being taken up and where you can do the most good. For instance, I saw my documents folder taking up a bunch of gigs. I drilled down and found out it was savegames from a bunch of games. So I freed up a bunch of gigs by removing savegames in the documents folders, putting them on my games drive, and putting junction links in my documents so all my games still think the saves are there when they aren't.
Theo wrote on Jan 3, 2011, 06:23:
really, it does not. your doing it so wrong. its around 5gb, thats a smaller OS footprint than vista. (and for the record, the memory foot print is also smaller than vista).
I'll paypal you money if you can get my windows 7 folder to 5 gigs without screwing it up. No joke, its taking up a huge chunk of my expensive SSD, the win 7 folder is about 20 gigs, and I'd love to be able to install more than 1 game that I'd like to load faster. For instance, there's 3.5 gigs in the \windows\installer folder. Everything I've found from official MS sources (and users) says not to go delete everything from that folder or else it can cause havoc with a win 7 install. MS has also removed the only tool they had released that could go through and erase parts of it safely. About half of that folder is in the $patchcache$ subfolder, and from what I've researched its ok to delete that one part only.
The other big (over 1 gig) subfolders of my windows are: another 7 gigs in winsxs folder, 3.5 gigs in system32 folder, 1.5 gigs in assembly folder, and 1.5 in sysWOW64 folder, and about 1 gig in Microsoft.NET.

I've done research on this since I have an SSD and I want to keep windows small so I can put a few games on it that I want to fast load, multiplayer games like Left 4 Dead 2.

I'll exclude the 6 gig pagefile file (since thats dependent on RAM size I have 6 gigs of RAM and disabling/deleting that causes performance problems) from your 5 gig total.
So, you ready to make some cash?

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Jan 3, 2011, 06:35:
The reality is that Vista and Win7 account for 70% of gaming computers, with XP making up less than 25%. Of that 25% there will be a large number of people that aren't interested in the latest games and don't have suitable hardware. DICE has obviously weighed up the options and decided that the additional development costs and technical restrictions imposed by supporting XP are not worth the additional revenue that that support would generate. This is a business decision.
As I mentioned before twice in this thread, its closer to 60% for games that aren't dx9 compatible, because you need a dx10/11 capable graphics card ALSO not just the OS.

This comment was edited on Jan 3, 2011, 11:06.
 
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