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Jerykk wrote on Nov 26, 2010, 07:03:
It's a bit frustrating to see that people still associate indies with those type of games when in truth indies are becoming associated with these games instead: Unfortunately, none of the games you linked have actually been released yet. The fact remains that the vast majority of indie games are low-budget games with low production values, which in turn limits the kind of genres they can fit in. This is why most indie games are 2D platformers or puzzle games.
While I would love to believe that games like Natural Selection 2, Red Orchestra 2 or Amnesia will become the norm for indies, I'm not going to hold my breath. Also keep in mind that many of these devs are only indie because they lack the funding or connections to sign a project with a big publisher. I believe the Amnesia devs even said in an interview that they want to make console games. Though you are quite correct on your first assessment, the vast majority of indies that have been released are puzzle games and the like with one or two notable exceptions, like Amnesia, I will disagree with the second. Indies, most of them anyway, make a point of not wanting to go work for a publisher, many even want and have gone multi and remained indie.
This is one of the biggest misconceptions of today's indie scene, that most indies want to go work for a publisher. The opposite is actually true, most indies want to remain indie and have no ties to publishers, either because many are made by devs that worked in the industry and fled from it and do not wish to return to it, ever, or by young people who see the industry for the mess it is and think, I might have better luck striking on my own, and more often than not they do. The Indies of today differ from the past because today indies truly want to become independent and for indies, and many have made statements of this kind, earning lots of money is something they don't want, they only want to earn enough money to live decently, most do not want to be filthy rich.
Natural Selection 2 and Heroes of Stalingrad will be the first wave of this new kind of indies and two very important releases that may shape the future of indies, since they may make gamers perceive indies as good as AAA games or they may fail and indies will be perceived as puzzle games for a long time. I'm betting on the former though, Tripwire knows what they're doing and Natural Selection 2 has opened up beta pre-orders which has been met with success.
I think PC gaming is ready for a paradigm change and HoS and NS2 may be the games to pave it. |
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