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German Call of Duty: Black Ops EU Ban

German website PC Games reports that German players will not be able to install localized versions of Call of Duty: Black Ops instead of the censored German edition of the military shooter. The game requires Steam activation even for retail copies, and word is that users located in Germany will not be permitted to activate versions purchased elsewhere. Thanks MCV.

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25. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 29, 2010, 05:02 Tim
 
StingingVelvet wrote on Oct 29, 2010, 04:09:
Still though, the complaints are understandable, as without Steam DRM this wouldn't happen.

The vehicle is irrelevant and I'd side with the (obvious) view that the German Government is ultimately responsible for this (and therefore it's citizens) and obviously it's the publisher insisting on Steams compliance to the law. To blame steam seems stupid.
 
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24. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 29, 2010, 04:09 StingingVelvet
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 19:54:
The idiocy in this thread is amazing.

Activision wants to enforce a region lockout, Germany wants to enforce an adult rating ban, and apparently when Steam agrees to their demands simply as a retailer it is Valve's fault.

Fucking clowns. This is not like Wal-Mart banning books. It's a fucking contractual agreement required by Activision.

I can definitely see why people would be annoyed at Steam for this, though I agree it is not the root cause. The fact of the matter is you can ban, censor or revoke any game in existance but unless that game has online DRM it wouldn't matter at all. Because of Steam and it's online DRM, it makes an import copy worthless.

Is it Steam's fault the German government is stupid? No. Is it Steam's fault the majority of German people refuse to acknowledge the stupidity of their government on this issue? No. Is it Steam's fault Activision said "hey Steam we want you to be the DRM on our game"? No.

Still though, the complaints are understandable, as without Steam DRM this wouldn't happen.
 
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23. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 29, 2010, 01:06 Sepharo
 
DangerDog wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 20:15:
Steam agrees to their demands simply as a retailer it is Valve's fault.

It's hard to get warm, fuzzy feelings over having a higher authority (Government or large corporation) dictating how you can use a video game.

For the time being we don't have this in the good old USA but we're not immune to having something like this happen. I suppose Australia will also have to bend over and take it (the censored version).

I'm not sure I understand why you're quoting that part

Is that agreeing or disagreeing? Do you think I'm saying it is Valve's fault? I'm not just in case
 
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22. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 21:46 durandal
 
This kind of shit also happened in Japan with Modern Warfare 2.

People bought US/UK/Asia copies of MW2 from retailers but couldn't (can't, even now) get through activation.

There has been games like Mafia 2 and Civilizations V, which require Steam authentication and also cannot buy from Steam-JP, but you could play all of them just fine if you get the package version and use its CD-key for registering it to your Steam account. So it's somewhat unique with MW2.

As a result, our PC community was thrown into an uproar (the poor, late localized version didn't help), and those retailers had to refund their customers for those "invalid" versions of MW2.

From the looks of it, It's MW2 all over again for us

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21. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 20:15 DrEvil
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 19:54:
The idiocy in this thread is amazing.

Activision wants to enforce a region lockout, Germany wants to enforce an adult rating ban, and apparently when Steam agrees to their demands simply as a retailer it is Valve's fault.

Fucking clowns. This is not like Wal-Mart banning books. It's a fucking contractual agreement required by Activision.

No freakin' kidding. This whole mess ultimately only exists because of laws in Germany. It doesn't matter if Germany has an age verification system. The point is that crap wouldn't even be needed if it wasn't for German law.
 
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20. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 20:15 DangerDog
 
Steam agrees to their demands simply as a retailer it is Valve's fault.

It's hard to get warm, fuzzy feelings over having a higher authority (Government or large corporation) dictating how you can use a video game.

For the time being we don't have this in the good old USA but we're not immune to having something like this happen. I suppose Australia will also have to bend over and take it (the censored version).
 
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19. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 19:54 Sepharo
 
The idiocy in this thread is amazing.

Activision wants to enforce a region lockout, Germany wants to enforce an adult rating ban, and apparently when Steam agrees to their demands simply as a retailer it is Valve's fault.

Fucking clowns. This is not like Wal-Mart banning books. It's a fucking contractual agreement required by Activision.
 
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18. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 17:03 Beamer
 
Valve covers their ass to not fuck with a government.

Internet calls them greedy Big Brother.
 
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17. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 16:21 DangerDog
 
I always feel like someone is watching me...

Valve = Big Brother, who knew.

SM0k3 wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 13:09:
Owned. YouTube's Angry german kid isn't going to like this at all.

Wait till Hitler finds out and rants about it from his bunker.

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16. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 15:38 The One
 
I don't give a fuck about a "cause". I will boycott this game and torrent the fucker as soon as a crack is available. Activision and Valve can fuck off and gangbang each other in the A or something.

ahhh spoken like a true German

 
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15. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 15:35 The One
 
It's funny how a country that annihilated millions, would ban a video game for violent content.....how bass ackards is that? Sie sind verboten!

Ich weiß, dass wir sollen auf Höflichkeit Fortschritt und bestrebt sein, humanere, andere aber die Idee, einige verzögerte Form der Zensur ist noch dümmer ..... das ist nicht Ziege porn, es ist ein Videospiel spielen sie die Menschen Welt .... selbst in China ...
 
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14. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 14:29 Gelangweilt
 
CJ_Parker is fully right.
it is an asshole move from Activision to block cheaper imports.
German version 60 euro, UK Version 40 Euro both include VAT already.
i am tired of this BS with region locks and so on.

The german version has a bad localisation, voice acting and translation are horrid. like with movies i wnt to see the original version.

the problem here is not valve per se. the problem is activision by making steam preventing the activation of this game even BEFORE the authorities ban anythign officially.

it is just about the money. so the only way to make activision understand that customers are grown ups is to hurt them in the wallet and not buy the game

 
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13. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 14:24 eRe4s3r
 
huh, so the laws at fault when steam doesn't obey the age control laws for ADULT ENTERTAINMENT which exist for nearly 60 years now?

Steam is legally NOT ALLOWED to sell Adult Games or Content in Germany, 0 - Zero - Nada. And why? Because they refuse to install one of the many (even federal) age verification systems Germany has in place, because they are just too lazy, or too dumb.

I bet on the latter.
 
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12. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 14:21 Kajetan
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 12:39:
I dont know ... but maybe some people will wake up and realize that Steam has some serious flaws.
It sure does, but obeying the specific laws of a country isn't one of them.
I refer to the successful control of content, based on the location of the customer, ignoring the fact, that he (as in being an adult) is allowed to buy these kind of games in this location.

I am way over 18 years old, i am legally allowed to buy (!) and own (!) such games, but Valve can treat me like a child, because they can control the content, because they have no interest in building an age verification system for german customers.

International versions of Black Ops are not banned, you just cannot sell them in Germany. But i am legally allowed to import them. But Valve being Valve ... they're just too arrogant.
 
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11. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 13:59 necrosis
 
Kajetan wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 11:05:
Creston wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 10:59:
Oooh, that's gonna stir up a big fucking shitstorm...
I dont know ... but maybe some people will wake up and realize that Steam has some serious flaws.
But maybe some people won't be completely stupid and point the finger where it needs to be. The German government. Steam is only following the laws of the land.

I wonder if German people will be able to get around this the same way Aussies got around the censored L4D2 edition.
 
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10. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 13:19 CJ_Parker
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 12:39:
The problem here lies with Germany's absurd media restrictions and censorship.

No it doesn't. I know that you're a Steam fanboi and don't want to hear it but the problem in this case is Valve. Living in Germany I can import any game from the US, the UK or Austria or from wherever the fuck I want. If the game is actually forbidden (as opposed to just being USK 18+) in Germany then there is a small risk that the game might get zapped by customs. That risk is pretty much zero if I order from the UK or Austria because of the whole free trade thing in Europe. Then if I have the game in my hands I can freely install and play it. No one can stop me from playing the game. This is how it usually works when Steam is not involved.
It is only because of Steam that I can not activate or play an imported copy of CoD Black Ops and as far as I know Black Ops is not even a forbidden game (yet). It's just a USK 18+ game. It's a complete asshole move by Valve and Activision not to allow German players to unlock their imported copies.

If German citizens aren't happy with this then they can either boycott the game - which wouldn't really help their cause

I don't give a fuck about a "cause". I will boycott this game and torrent the fucker as soon as a crack is available. Activision and Valve can fuck off and gangbang each other in the A or something.

...or they could build up enough momentum to force a change of government policy. Perhaps a game this big will be enough to finally start that.

Sorry but that is complete bullshit. After the killing sprees that we have had over here in Erfurt and in Winnenden we can call ourselves lucky that there is no total ban on violent video games. The majority of the population would be in favor of such a ban. As gamers we are the minority and we want to keep a low profile and not stir up any unnecessary shit or it might backfire very badly.

 
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9. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 13:14 SpectralMeat
 
SM0k3 wrote on Oct 28, 2010, 13:09:
Owned. YouTube's Angry german kid isn't going to like this at all.
Meh he is into Unreal Tournament anyways
 
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8. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 13:09 SM0k3
 
Owned. YouTube's Angry german kid isn't going to like this at all.  
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7. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 12:39 theyarecomingforyou
 
I dont know ... but maybe some people will wake up and realize that Steam has some serious flaws.
It sure does, but obeying the specific laws of a country isn't one of them - it's a legal requirement. The problem here lies with Germany's absurd media restrictions and censorship.

If German citizens aren't happy with this then they can either boycott the game - which wouldn't really help their cause - or they could build up enough momentum to force a change of government policy. Perhaps a game this big will be enough to finally start that.
 
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6. Re: EU Call of Duty: Black Ops German Ban Oct 28, 2010, 12:31 SpectralMeat
 
So why is this game banned in Germany anyways?

Can't German players just create a new Steam account and pick US or any other country instead of Germany for location?
 
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