What other game used the HALO 1 engine?

Edit - Stubbs the Zombie!
I knew it was a Wideload game. Patrick Curry was the lead dev. Good dude, backed hard. He just did Guilty Party, which is supposed to be a ton of fun, and he teaches some great courses at DePaul.

Beamer wrote on Oct 11, 2010, 13:23:

Sure, the market is smaller, but does that have to mean less profit? I don't think so.

Yes. Yes it does. If your margins are mostly fixed at X dollars, then your profits increase as market size increases.

Beamer wrote on Oct 11, 2010, 17:21:

If you go to the PC FPS community, especially the important sites you will find that it's already filled with buzz.

To me, this is the important site.

Beamer wrote on Oct 11, 2010, 17:21:

As for Interstellar Marines' Unity engine, EA just ought a huge license to use that engine, can't be that bad right?

It's a flaming pile of dog dung. I'd be shocked if EA does anything beyond casual browser-based and phone-based gaming with it. That's all it does well. It's great if you want to do either of those, arguably unparalleled. It's a messy, poorly coded crapbox for anything more. They're pushing so insanely hard for Interstellar Marines to legitimize them, and bending over backwards for it. Much like Unigine had promised for Primal Carnage (then left them to rot so they turned to UDK. I don't yet know if Epic is really helping them out, but if they Lukewarm guys can make a good alpha I suspect they'll attract the right attention inside Epic.)

If you go to the PC FPS community, especially the important sites you will find that it's already filled with buzz.

As for Interstellar Marines' Unity engine, EA just ought a huge license to use that engine, can't be that bad right?

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 11, 2010, 16:17:

So yeah, Amnesia is the game that you should hold as a HL2 or Civ because it's damn close to perfect at what it does, much like HL2 and Civ are damn close to perfection at what they do, you only have to read reviews from the mainstream media and from gamers to know I'm not wrong.

Amnesia is good but it's not that good. Some parts, like the invisible water monster you come across early on, I found to be a chore. Don't get me wrong, the atmosphere is exceptional and better at scaring you than any mainstream game - the only game that comes close is the original STALKER. It's just not the definitive indie game.

Some parts, like the invisible water monster you come across early on, I found to be a chore.

What other game used the HALO 1 engine?

So yeah, Amnesia is the game that you should hold as a HL2 or Civ because it's damn close to perfect at what it does, much like HL2 and Civ are damn close to perfection at what they do, you only have to read reviews from the mainstream media and from gamers to know I'm not wrong.

Tim: Well yes. That was one of the reasons why before Quakecon I was gonna (set the PC version to) the same resolution, so I could have all three of them the same, and John Carmack was like, “Well you know it’s really a PC centric audience, let’s go ahead and crank it up a little bit” … and it did load much faster.

So they were all excited about that. “It loads faster, see! My three thousand dollar machine is better because it loads faster!”

Jackplug wrote on Oct 11, 2010, 15:46:
When it falls on its arse though i can see Id droppin the pc like a lead balloon!!

Creating the graphics needed for a game to look like Crysis is much more resource intensive than to make it look like Halo.

So they were all excited about that. “It loads faster, see! My three thousand dollar machine is better because it loads faster!”

Sometimes people are… it’s always the ones that love you the most that you hurt, you know? But I think our hardcore PC fans understand the fact that it’s difficult to be a successful company and only make a PC game. The audience is smaller.

We’ll have not just content but technology parity across everything.

what they do other than attend tradeshows

Beamer wrote on Oct 11, 2010, 14:02:

Heroes of Stalingrad uses the UDK engine but the graphics are so advanced, with effects that weren't done before in the UDK that even PCGamer said it was the best game they've seen at PAX. And Tripwire is still indie, the prime example of an indie company hitting success and running with it.

Unless it's changed, it's UE3.
And Tripwire is "indie" with a publisher. They're about as indie as Valve and Epic, which is validly indie, but if why not point them out instead of Tripwire?

Beamer wrote on Oct 11, 2010, 14:02:
I'm not trying to put down indie titles.
But you're holding them up like a holy grail, like they're inherently better than major publisher titles. That's false. Some of them are good. Some of them massively blow. I'd argue their highs aren't as high as major publisher highs. When we get something of the quality of Half Life 2, Civ 5, etc., from an indie I'll change my mind, but as of right now that's out of their reach. They can be more innovative and take more risks because they're better able to serve niche audiences, but when a AAA title gets everything right it'll do so better than an indie right now because it has access to far more resources.

Beamer wrote on Oct 11, 2010, 13:56:

So? RealtimeWorlds failed. More mainstream devs have failed horrendously than many indie devs. Your point being? Failure exists in all industries, be them indies or mainstream, it goes with any business.

I'm not saying AAA titles don't fail, but you said that if you do a good, ingenious PC game regardless of genre it will make more money than most AAA games.

I'm saying that's false. Good, ingenious games by both major publishers and indies go unnoticed and fail regularly.