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US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy

Kotaku has a follow-up to the renaming of the Taliban to "Opposing Force" in Medal of Honor, quoting a U.S. Army representative saying the military shooter was in jeopardy of losing official support due its use of the Taliban name. They outline the kind of support this entailed in helping create game authenticity (besides the name of the opposing force), and point out that this had already occurred, so the Army would not have had much recourse if the Taliban name had remained, though it seems obvious this may have impacted future such projects.

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17. removed Oct 2, 2010, 18:21 Marvin T. Martian
 
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16. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 18:08 wet007
 
Yes unfortunalty those that oppose games and state they are responsible for all the voilence in the world prob have never even played a single game.

I have been playing games since the days of sabre wulf , jet set willy and i have never ever had the urge to uzi down a crowd or maim and kill, quite the opposite in fact..
 
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15. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 17:44 UnderLord
 
I wonder if the 'Opposing Force' will just happen to have full beards...  
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14. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 17:36 Muscular Beaver
 
In the end of the day its just pixle`s / polygons on a screen so who care what they are called....
Agreed. Most of the people claiming games could be mistaken for reality, have that problem themselves.
 
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13. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 17:26 wet007
 
SO its okay for them to kill american soliders in the game but heaven forbid the other way around .... If a game is based on a real world conflict , then surly using the real names should not be an issue.
Whats next were not allowed to call them Nazi`s in a ww2 shooter incase it offends someone ...
In the end of the day its just pixle`s / polygons on a screen so who care what they are called....
 
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12. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 17:25 Joss
 
Meh, the military should ban this because it doesn't have the fundamental soldier movements... prone, lean & freelook.  
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11. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 17:17 killer_roach
 
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Oct 2, 2010, 16:50:
I'm sorry but it's a game based in Afghanistan, a conflict where the US Army is fighting the Taliban. And yet the US Army would be willing to stop supporting the game and any future projects because... they refer to the Taliban by name? What. The. Fuck.

It's bad enough that this pointless conflict has resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent civilians, without the US Army trying to dictate the way the entertainment medium can portray the conflict. This is political meddling and I'm sick of it.

Not so much "political" as it is "politically correct". You've got cultural advisors in the military up in arms because they're worried about the publicity of a game in the American market where you hunt down and kill the Taliban is likely to inflame tensions in Afghanistan and Pakistan and make people want to join the Taliban so they can kill Americans to atone for this offense against Islamic clerics.

In my personal opinion, if we're going to stop something because somebody is threatening to kill people over us, we might as well just let them kill us all. Our foreign policy is run as much by Bin Laden as it is by Obama, or Bush before him.
 
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10. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 16:50 theyarecomingforyou
 
I'm sorry but it's a game based in Afghanistan, a conflict where the US Army is fighting the Taliban. And yet the US Army would be willing to stop supporting the game and any future projects because... they refer to the Taliban by name? What. The. Fuck.

It's bad enough that this pointless conflict has resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent civilians, without the US Army trying to dictate the way the entertainment medium can portray the conflict. This is political meddling and I'm sick of it.
 
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9. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 16:49 Hump
 
evidently some good Christian soldier whined to military brass which is mainly composed of older straight-laced types who have utterly no interest in games as entertainment. The "disrespectful" angle was played up and action was taken.

For once I'd like to see a large company NOT buckle under pressure from special interest groups or PC cops and hold their ground.
 
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8. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 16:17 Dr. D. Schreber
 
killer_roach wrote on Oct 2, 2010, 15:57:
Cutter wrote on Oct 2, 2010, 15:37:
Appreasement only makes the aggressor stronger. Remember Munich.

Agreed.

At the very least, why not at least call them "terrorists" and not "opposing force"? Hell, even CounterStrike's been doing that without controversy for ages.

Because "Opposing Force" takes away the implication of Asymmetrical Warfare, and it's easier for people to accept that classical Army Vs Army warfare is Good and Just and Honorable and other happy things as well.
 
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7. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 15:57 killer_roach
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 2, 2010, 15:37:
Appreasement only makes the aggressor stronger. Remember Munich.

Agreed.

At the very least, why not at least call them "terrorists" and not "opposing force"? Hell, even CounterStrike's been doing that without controversy for ages.
 
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6. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 15:37 Cutter
 
Appreasement only makes the aggressor stronger. Remember Munich.
 
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5. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 15:17 Shooman
 
DangerDog wrote on Oct 2, 2010, 14:35:
I still feel the only ones that would have really been offended by seeing "Taliban" up on the screen would be muslims, especially ones serving in the military.

Errr.....wwhhhyyyyy?.......
 
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4. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 14:35 DangerDog
 
I still feel the only ones that would have really been offended by seeing "Taliban" up on the screen would be muslims, especially ones serving in the military.

It's all important to be politically correct when talking about the so called enemy in these middle eastern countries. Our President says we're not at war with islam, I guess someone forgot to give that message to the muslims, the ones the bombs are being dropped on.

I can see the propaganda slant to it as well "always must show the good guys winning", but that argument loses ground when you see that they're perfectly fine with being able to shoot and kill American looking soldiers in a game clearly set in the "current war" theater of Afghanistan.

It could also just be a case of unnecessary censorship.

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3. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 14:06 born2expire
 
WTF?? why does this game need to have "official support" from the US army?
I mean Taliban or not, you can still play as the OpFOr and "kill" americans!
 
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2. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 13:56 AnointedSword
 
Interesting point of view. Are you a psychologist? Do you think we can talk our way through and hope these people will not attack others because some company didn't put their name out there? If you think so, you might want to research a little bit before you post again. These people were chopping heads off and leaving bodies all over the country long before any U.S. forces got there.  
If you were right, I would be agreeing with you.
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1. Re: US Army on MoH Taliban Controversy Oct 2, 2010, 13:36 Ozmodan
 
This falls under the what were you thinking category. You have to wonder about these kids making war games with zero military experience because if they had some that idea would never have entered their minds.  
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